LJS 51 Collection of alphabets and encoded correspondence
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I'm not sure if this has been posted here before (can't find if so).
Some info below, if you would like anything further it will (hopefully) be contained within the links.

Collection of encrypted correspondence - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
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Summary
Collection of encrypted correspondence between the compiler and various correspondents, in approximately 150 alphabets, accompanied by transcriptions of the letters in Arabic. The compiler cites Shihāb al-Dīn al-Jindī al-ʻAlāʼī, Burhān al-Dīn al-Qudsī, and Taqī al-Dīn Muḥammad ibn Jaʻfar al-Ḥusaynī as authorities for some of the alphabets. The manuscript is incomplete, lacking its beginning and end. Occasional marginal notes. Some worm damage in margins.

Publisher
University of Pennsylvania

Language
Arabic

Origin
Possibly written in Syria, in the 15th century.


Script
Written in naskh script.



LJS 51
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In 2011, University of Pennsylvania Libraries Board members Barbara Brizdle Schoenberg and Lawrence J. Schoenberg donated their manuscript collection of nearly 300 manuscripts and documents to the Penn Libraries, half of which are from medieval and Renaissance Europe. With its emphasis on the history of science and the transmission of knowledge across time and geography, the Schoenberg Collection brings together many of the great scientific and philosophical traditions of the ancient and medieval worlds. Documenting the extraordinary achievements of scholars, philosophers, and scientists active in pre-modern Europe, Africa, and Asia, the collection illuminates the foundations of our shared intellectual heritage.


Here are some glyph comparisons which I find interesting to one extent or another, I like EVA: "t" and "qo" most.
I have left out "extended EVA" and other odd glyphs other than the first page weirdo, there's probably more good comparisons others can find.

I went to around 38v, plus some near the end. There's a lot of pages in between. 

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I've found versions of the original which are copied into LjS 51:
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From the bottom of the same page:

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You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. [ half gallows in page 50]

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[Page 212]

I don't have time to go through it all now, but I've found the equivalent gallows in all 3..  apparently it is the symbol for Zay or 7 in Arabic 


In fact looking at this website, there's a treasure trove to mine at some point...

Wow, I thought it would be interesting, but I've just found a mid 15th century Italian manuscript with almost  these exact same Arabic symbols in it, which proves that they were circulating at the time.. including a nice charm for Koen

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