Yes, I can see the problem. The problem is dismissal. If it can be dismissed, it *must* be dismissed. There's no reason for investigation or consideration. This denies, after the fact, the possibility that any artist has used nebuly symbolism. Surely, the artist is not focused on heraldry, but the intended interpretation of the artistic technique is the same cloud-based concept, whether the nebuly line is plain or ornate.
But all is not lost. The test of one association is the validity of a subsequent association. When it works, it works.
The oldest 'word-pattern' association I know is Wolkenstein. A heraldic insignia divided by a single line is not that common. Alternating stripes are more usual. Wolkenstein works because of its canting interpretation. <So, unless it was the Duke of Nebuly, there wouldn't be a direct canting connection, though there are scattered examples of historical usages.>
None of the six examples (1300-1340) were heraldic. Perhaps you'll have a chance to take a look. This is 1300-1340 data:
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Here's a nice cloud-band, without any indication of religious personages or cosmological interpretations dated 1316. No cosmic boundaries, no heraldry, but the nebuly / gewolkt interpretation is still clearly implied.
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But all is not lost. The test of one association is the validity of a subsequent association. When it works, it works.
The oldest 'word-pattern' association I know is Wolkenstein. A heraldic insignia divided by a single line is not that common. Alternating stripes are more usual. Wolkenstein works because of its canting interpretation. <So, unless it was the Duke of Nebuly, there wouldn't be a direct canting connection, though there are scattered examples of historical usages.>
None of the six examples (1300-1340) were heraldic. Perhaps you'll have a chance to take a look. This is 1300-1340 data:
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Here's a nice cloud-band, without any indication of religious personages or cosmological interpretations dated 1316. No cosmic boundaries, no heraldry, but the nebuly / gewolkt interpretation is still clearly implied.
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