"The Currier languages revisited" revisited

[kckluge]

I would be curious to see a version of the plot colored by Scribe/Hand. 

As always, it’s possible I made errors. I used the You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. shared by Karl here to re-create the plot in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., colored by hand and adding labels.

It seems the two clusters match the hands very well.
Scribe4 has pages in the two different clusters. The two pages that end up in the B cluster on the right are the Rosettes page I think (f85v1, I could never understand exactly page numbering for the large foldout) and the last zodiac page: Sagittarius (f73v).
Scribe3 has a single “A” page: f58r. The position of f58v, just across the gap, is also interesting. See also Karl's comment #37 just above.

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., the zodiac pages show a drift from “close to A” to “close to B” (all in the range of Rene’s C/Cosmo intermediate language). You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. shows that the drift takes place both in circle and label text.

At first glance that looks right. I used "f85v1" (which, IIRC, is the lower left panel of the "rose" side of the big foldout) rather than Rene's "fRos" for reasons irrelevant to the discussion. Since the Zodiac pages have an ordering, I plotted the "no labels" coordinates for the 1st two eigenvectors with lines connecting each page to the next one (the last one, Sagittarius, is the point at the bottom at x ~= 0.025):

   

I don't see any coherent trend in that. If I'm counting correctly, the point sticking out to the right at y ~= 0.045 is Leo,
which lines up to some degree with Leo & Sagittarius being peaks in your plot of % EVA "ed" in the non-label circle text, but it's still solidly on the A language side of the gap in the side 3-D view (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.). 

I have to acknowledge that the non-label Sagittarius text lands firmly (if on the edge of) the B language side of the A/B gap, and I have to acknowledge that "Zodiac labelese" is statistically intermediate between the A & B non-label vocabularies. Having said that, I'm still worried about making assumptions about the relationship between label and non-label text on the same page, and I'm still not convinced the overall bigram frequency stats for the non-label text on the Zodiac pages support them being any kind of continuous transitional form between A & B. (I'm happy to entertain the possibility/likelihood that "Zodiac labelese" played a role in inspiring the construction of Herbal B, however.)