13-11-2025, 01:42 PM
(This post was last modified: 13-11-2025, 01:43 PM by Jorge_Stolfi.)
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Can we summarize what has been uncovered so far? Specifically, about the f72v1 12:00 crown.
It seems that whoever drew it definitely wanted to draw triangular teeth with serrated edges (not fleur-de-lys, not leaves, not smooth triangles), and at least one "handle" (arched band) across the top with a cross.
Other visible or potentially omitted features of the drawing -- like two or more arched bands, a velvet core, a second ring of teeth, jewels etc. -- are debatable, thus let's leave them aside.
Let's assume that the Crown Artist copied a crown that was familiar to him because it was that of the local monarch. What does that tell us about the place and time when that happened?
I suppose we can exclude Italy, France, and Hungary because, I gather, their kings wore different crowns, without the key features above.
Is it reasonable to infer that, if the crown was drawn in the 1400s or 1500s, the place is unlikely to have been outside Austria and Bohemia?
Whereas, if the crown was drawn in the 1600s to 1800s, it could have been anywhere in the Holy Roman Empire?
Is there a date when that style of crown was replaced by a significantly different one, without the key features above?
All the best, --stolfi
Can we summarize what has been uncovered so far? Specifically, about the f72v1 12:00 crown.
It seems that whoever drew it definitely wanted to draw triangular teeth with serrated edges (not fleur-de-lys, not leaves, not smooth triangles), and at least one "handle" (arched band) across the top with a cross.
Other visible or potentially omitted features of the drawing -- like two or more arched bands, a velvet core, a second ring of teeth, jewels etc. -- are debatable, thus let's leave them aside.
Let's assume that the Crown Artist copied a crown that was familiar to him because it was that of the local monarch. What does that tell us about the place and time when that happened?
I suppose we can exclude Italy, France, and Hungary because, I gather, their kings wore different crowns, without the key features above.
Is it reasonable to infer that, if the crown was drawn in the 1400s or 1500s, the place is unlikely to have been outside Austria and Bohemia?
Whereas, if the crown was drawn in the 1600s to 1800s, it could have been anywhere in the Holy Roman Empire?
Is there a date when that style of crown was replaced by a significantly different one, without the key features above?
All the best, --stolfi