26-10-2025, 08:28 PM
(24-10-2025, 12:51 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]I said and cited that Toresella is saying nothing but a romantic fantasy about the Voynich Manuscript - the stuff about sunflowers and Andromeda galaxy didn‘t age well during the last years, but these were not his ideas.
If I may summarise the long argument of your post:
You argued that there are only 3 Italian aspects in the MS, namely the ghibbeline merlons on some buildings, and they are only recognised by amateurs.
I argued that many experts recognise Itialian influences in several aspects of the MS. One of these is Toresella.
You say that Toresella is completely wrong.
That does not invalidate my argument. And he is not an amateur.
He just draws no context between his „alchemistic plants and herbals“, so this at least one expert (you named 2 here) didn’t give a valid proof for VMS‘s „italian“ (or close to it) origin.
By the way: the mentioned article of Toresella does not show much more expertise about his core stuff than this short textblock about VMS; calling the article rather non-scientific would be the most polite to say about it.
Again: were are these masses of experts who exclaim the Alpine Story?

