Why is there even a Voynich B?
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The thing that makes PCA based cluster analysis (in particular) of sub-dialects tricky is that

* on the one hand we don't want to beg the question by bringing too much prior knowledge to bear in doing the analysis, while

* on the other hand, we *know* that the A-B split is the dominant souce of overall variance, meaning that if you include Q13 (in particular) and the Herbal B folios (to a lesser extent) then PCA will be forced to pick a dominant eigenvector that captures as much of that variance as possible, forcing all subsequent eigenfeatures to be orthogonal to that axis -- which is not necessarily going to produce good axes to tease apart other substructure.

While I've gotten around to running PCA-based k-means clustering on the running text of all the pages in the Mss. to compare with Rene's clustering results, I haven't had a chance to run it excluding Q13 or Q13 + Herbal B pages. That's definitely on my queue to see if that increases the separation between the A language "dialects".
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Why is there even a Voynich B? - by Skoove - 08-10-2025, 07:11 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by Dunsel - 09-11-2025, 09:57 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by Dunsel - 10-11-2025, 01:28 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by ReneZ - 09-10-2025, 12:56 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by ReneZ - 09-10-2025, 02:05 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by ReneZ - 09-10-2025, 11:43 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 09-10-2025, 10:26 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by ReneZ - 10-10-2025, 12:40 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by kckluge - 10-10-2025, 09:26 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 10-10-2025, 09:37 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by kckluge - 10-10-2025, 10:42 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 11-10-2025, 08:37 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 11-10-2025, 04:25 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 11-10-2025, 04:28 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 12-10-2025, 11:17 AM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 12-10-2025, 12:04 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 12-10-2025, 07:04 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by quimqu - 12-10-2025, 09:48 PM
RE: Why is there even a Voynich B? - by JoJo_Jost - 10-11-2025, 07:41 AM

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