VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant
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Regarding the word derivation, the following should be considered: (I use for the word checks voynichese.com)
Let's take the second word dam. This word has 98 additional occurrences in the manuscript in this form; if the word stands for "against," this could still be understood. The word alam, which then stands very specifically for scarlet fever, has 8 occurrences in the same form. Based on regular repetitions of other words in the manuscript, one finds the root words with prefixes like a,o,ch,qo ...
If you search for the word without the a, thus for lam, you get another 6 hits.
If you search for olam, there are another 6 hits. Now the word rad also appears as chlam with one hit. We also have an o-to-a swap in quite a few words in the manuscript, and find not only lam but also lom, and then again with olom and alom as before.

The word dam appears in Voynich with the same typical prepositions as mentioned above: adam, ydam, odam, qodam, chdam, chodam, oldam.

Of course, we can say that the preamble assumption is wrong, but we have no choice but to look for a rule based on the grammatical repetitions in the manuscript.

We can also reduce the whole thing even further just to show the problems. The word "al" and "am" also appears in the manuscript. It could also be that "al am" is a combination of both words, and unfortunately, the letter "m" also appears on its own. 

You can view the variations of these words at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. The asterisk before a word like *lam shows you all words that contain lam

This interplay of grammatical rules makes it difficult to translate individual words. Words must be checked against repetitions in the manuscript to determine whether and how many multiple occurrences exist, and whether the word can still be used in context.


I'll give you another example of the pre-sound rule:

Take the word daiin.

Look at the pre-sounds the word also has.

odaiin, ydaiin, ldaiin, qodaiin, pdaiin, tdaiin, chodaiin, c+hdaiin... The question is whether daiin can even be the root word, since there are also daiiin and dain. :-)
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VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 15-04-2025, 02:48 PM
RE: VMS f65r: Weird leaves - by Jorge_Stolfi - 03-09-2025, 10:43 AM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Bernd - 03-09-2025, 07:41 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Jorge_Stolfi - 03-09-2025, 09:19 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Petrasti - 21-09-2025, 09:12 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by RobGea - 22-09-2025, 05:55 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Jorge_Stolfi - 23-09-2025, 05:36 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Bernd - 23-09-2025, 12:01 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Jorge_Stolfi - 23-09-2025, 05:28 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Petrasti - 23-09-2025, 02:03 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Petrasti - 23-09-2025, 07:08 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Rafal - 23-09-2025, 07:34 PM
RE: VMS f65r: a "spiked" plant - by Petrasti - 25-09-2025, 01:29 PM

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