11-09-2025, 03:49 AM
(10-09-2025, 07:29 PM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.causes me to question your familiarity with Petra Sancta
Actually I have been very familiar with it since about 14:33 this afternoon (local time). With the name, I mean. I just haven't had a chance to google it yet.
Quote:the colors need to be right or it doesn't work
But there is good reason to believe that the colors are not original. You mean the hatching patterns, which would represent different colors?
(10-09-2025, 07:29 PM)R. Sale wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's the combination of armorial and ecclesiastical heraldry that makes the historical connection with the Genoese popes. Therefore, it cannot be "just decoration" when it makes a connection to historical events and realities
On You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. (Aries Light, Aries 2) there are three "nymphs" that could be male: in the outer band at 07:00 and 05:00, and in the inner band at 03:00. Their tubs have, respectively, no decoration, two vertical stripes along the sides, and the same plus a scalloped fringe along the top edge, Each of these three nymphs has no breasts and wears a distinctive hat, a rounded cone with a broad flat round brim. I suppose that it might have meant to be a cardinal's hat; but, from the images I have seen, this had a rounder bowl-shaped top. However, the tight-fitting dress seems quite unlike that of cardinals at the time. (IIUC until ~1465 the cardinal's robe was purple, not red; but, again, the red on the VMS dresses is not original.)
I gather that there were only two Genoese popes before the VMS was written: Innocent IV (elected in 1243) and Adrian V (elected in 1276). Both had a blazon with diagonal blue and white stripes. On Aries Light (f71r) hat could be the tub pattern of the outer nymph at 10:00, if the hatches mean blue. But she seems to be female, and has no hat. What other connection with the Genoese popes do you see?