@Jorge_Stolfi
Thanks for your reply. Indeed, it is exactly my position that heraldry is underrated.
It does seem, however, that you may not be a student of medieval heraldry or familiar with heraldic terminology. Where you said "some have only a wavy or dotted line along the edge" causes me to question your familiarity with Petra Sancta or the heraldic lines of division. Would you recognize an engrailed chief when you see one? What is a semy of roundels?
The VMs is not a manual to teach heraldry. The VMs requires a knowledge of heraldry in order to interpret the information it provides.
The basic process of creating a pattern of alternating lines is interesting. How is it done? What does it mean? How can colors be represented? If the VMs is using hatching lines to indicate color, then that is chronologically problematic. And if not, are the tub patterns in Pisces outer ring to be interpreted as if they were just black and white? Even sable and argent can lead to a valid blazon. Beats the heck out of purple and green.
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Finding a valid blazon does not necessarily equate to a specific historical connection. It's the combination of armorial and ecclesiastical heraldry that makes the historical connection with the Genoese popes. Therefore, it cannot be "just decoration" when it makes a connection to historical events and realities. The whole thing is built in over three pages and the colors need to be right or it doesn't work.
The point is that visual simplicity is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. The less that is known and recognized about heraldry, the easier it is to gloss over the whole thing. It's easier to dismiss a clear presence than to ask why it is there.
*It's* there because the pope in the outer ring has a tub that is congruous with one of the highly elaborated quatrefoil rectangles that I call "Stolfi's markers".
Thanks for your reply. Indeed, it is exactly my position that heraldry is underrated.
It does seem, however, that you may not be a student of medieval heraldry or familiar with heraldic terminology. Where you said "some have only a wavy or dotted line along the edge" causes me to question your familiarity with Petra Sancta or the heraldic lines of division. Would you recognize an engrailed chief when you see one? What is a semy of roundels?
The VMs is not a manual to teach heraldry. The VMs requires a knowledge of heraldry in order to interpret the information it provides.
The basic process of creating a pattern of alternating lines is interesting. How is it done? What does it mean? How can colors be represented? If the VMs is using hatching lines to indicate color, then that is chronologically problematic. And if not, are the tub patterns in Pisces outer ring to be interpreted as if they were just black and white? Even sable and argent can lead to a valid blazon. Beats the heck out of purple and green.
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Finding a valid blazon does not necessarily equate to a specific historical connection. It's the combination of armorial and ecclesiastical heraldry that makes the historical connection with the Genoese popes. Therefore, it cannot be "just decoration" when it makes a connection to historical events and realities. The whole thing is built in over three pages and the colors need to be right or it doesn't work.
The point is that visual simplicity is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. The less that is known and recognized about heraldry, the easier it is to gloss over the whole thing. It's easier to dismiss a clear presence than to ask why it is there.
*It's* there because the pope in the outer ring has a tub that is congruous with one of the highly elaborated quatrefoil rectangles that I call "Stolfi's markers".