The Naibbe cipher
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I love this clever way of reverse engineering . It’s nice to show a cypher can look like voynichese  and still have meaning behind it regardless if this is the real mechanism. I do have a couple questions and I did listen to your video. I read your paper and I read this thread and I’m really hoping I didn’t miss the answer somewhere. This is pretty hard stuff to follow and I thought I checked before I’m asking . If these have already been Addressed , just let me know and  I will go answer my own questions by rereading ? .

Clusters and repetition: are you saying that  this is a feature of an encrypted plaintext letter/bigram just so happen to repeat in the plaintext word and therefore looks like words and suffixes being repeated , when it’s just a few repeat plain letters? Or is it because the voynichese  encryption  “chunks”are similar making all plain text words become repetitive? 

Does your system  show that the same vords, glyphs and even bigrams like to cluster around line breaks? And places where the line ends?

Does your system start having certain bigrams trending more left or right (Like Patrick Feaster has demonstrated)

Your tables- now
I know you did not focus on actual translation but rather showing something that mimics parts of the Voynich but you do shows charts of plain text letter ratios that match the voynich Glyphs  so I am asking how much of your tables are just placeholders for any Latin letter in order to model this approach and how much of this is your actual best guess of what the suffixes, prefixes and Unigrams  could actually be in plaintext Latin or Italian.  For example did you somewhat choose to map Eva M to a Latin letters that are  not as common or is it literally all arbitrary? Or does your cypher fix that? Like it doesn’t matter that certain glyphs and bigrams outnumber others?

Anyways incredible work. Really interested how this continues as you fine tune it.  I wish I head for math at times like this.
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The Naibbe cipher - by magnesium - 03-08-2025, 04:18 PM
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RE: The Naibbe cipher - by MarcoP - 04-08-2025, 10:17 AM
RE: The Naibbe cipher - by magnesium - 04-08-2025, 02:34 AM
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RE: The Naibbe cipher - by MarcoP - 04-08-2025, 04:28 PM
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