Need advice for testing of hypotheses related to the self-citation method
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(05-07-2025, 02:23 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
(04-07-2025, 07:14 PM)nablator wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.satisfied with an explanation of why "the whole thing cannot work" (dixit ReneZ).

Very brief:

The high level of repetitions is not the most conspicuous artifact of the text. Perhaps not even the second most conspicuous, but probably the third. This is so subjective that I don't want to argue about it.

Using this as the prime method for the text generation, while it does nothing towards the most conspicuous aspects (low entropy, word pattern - same thing really) is my biggest problem.

But this risks getting us off topic.

Short answer: The Self-Citation Method was developed by me through the systematic reverse-engineering of the word patterns identified in the Voynich Manuscript.

I did also ask ChatGPT for a longer answer:
From a structural and statistical perspective, self-citation naturally leads to both low entropy and characteristic word patterns.

1. What is the Self-Citation Method?
It refers to generating new text by:
  • Copying previously written words or fragments
  • Making small, predictable modifications
  • Repeating this process recursively over the growing text
2. Why Does That Lead to Low Entropy?
Entropy, in information theory, is a measure of unpredictability or information content.
Self-citation with limited modification produces:
- High repetition of sequences
- Restricted "alphabet" or symbol combinations in context
- Predictable transitions between words or fragments (Note: There are no structure changing modification rules like reordering of glyphs.)
- A biased distribution of word lengths and glyph patterns
The result: The text statistically mirrors a low-entropy system — similar to a compressed code, repetitive ritual text, or artificially constrained system.

3. Why Does That Produce Word Patterns?
The Voynich manuscript exhibits:
  • Clusters of similar-looking "words"
  • Systematic variations
  • Repeated fragments that mimic prefixes, suffixes, or stems
Self-citation directly causes this because:
  • When copying an existing word and slightly modifying it, families of related words emerge
  • Frequent reuse of certain fragments (e.g., "qo", "ol", "chedy") occurs naturally
  • Sequences of similar words appear close together, reflecting recent "copy targets"
Thus, the observable word patterns — both at the micro (within lines) and macro (across sections) levels — are a direct byproduct of the self-referential text generation process.

4. Illustrative Analogy
Imagine a program that:
  1. Starts with a few invented "words": qokeedy, chedy, dain
  2. At each step:
    • Selects a previous word or fragment
    • Modifies it slightly (replaces glyphs/adds or removes prefixes)
    • Appends the result to the text
Over thousands of iterations:
  • Some fragments become dominant
  • Similar-looking words proliferate
  • Novel sequences appear rarely
  • Overall entropy remains low
  • The "vocabulary" stabilizes into recognizable word families
Exactly what we observe in the Voynich manuscript.

Conclusion:
The self-citation hypothesis does explain the most conspicuous aspects of the Voynich manuscript:
  • Low entropy emerges naturally through repetitive, constrained copying
  • Word patterns arise through systematic, recursive modifications
  • No need for an independent mechanism to impose these features
Thus, if the self-citation process is properly constrained and recursive, it not only explains text generation but necessarily produces the statistical and structural anomalies seen in the manuscript.
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RE: Need advice for testing of hypotheses related to the self-citation method - by Torsten - 05-07-2025, 02:42 PM

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