Which plaintext languages to try?
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(26-01-2025, 04:56 PM)oshfdk wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.[..]
So, getting back to the Voynich MS, there is a strong case for Latin as the default manuscript language of that time in Europe (as far as I understand), there is a strong case for Germanic languages, because there is something that looks like traces of German in some of the marginalia, and there is a case for Romance languages, because of the month names. Even if the marginalia are not by the author, it's a bit more likely that they were added in the same general region where the manuscript was created. As far as I know, there is no specific reason to include Czech, Arabic, Hungarian, etc., other than to cover all the bases or explain why the manuscript hasn't been decoded yet.
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And that's were the fun is...

Really getting back to Voynich MS means:

there is not a "(strong) case" but exactly nothing showing any of VMS is related to Latin or Latin-based languages. Not a trace.

There is not a "(strong) case" for Germanic languages but only a few scribbles at some pages which are very doubted to belong to original VMS and MAYBE are made in some "Germanic".

There is not a "case" for "Romance languages" but some later scribbled words in a spelling that does not fit to any Romanic language by now. Or is this discussion successfully finished? The "months" are suspected "occitan" since some time, thats all.

There is not any (in this Forum) accepted origin location of the VMS, neither of the possibly later add-on scribbles. Even if, there is no reason to underestimate the travel speed and distance of a book: it could have been written in Moscow and "enhanced" in Lissabon without any obstacles, and could have shown up in Prague or Rome somewhere later during the centuries.

There is no chance that all those important double consonants like -rr-, -ff-, -nn-, -mm-, -tt-, -ss- etc., which are crucial for Latin and all it's derived languages, are contained somewhere in the VMS by a "clever encoding", "magical cipher" or such.

All tries with Latin (and there were a lot) failed, due the incompatibility of VMS structure, spelling, words with pure replacements AND with all decoding principles.
This includes all Romanic languages, Romanian, German and West-slavic languages as well.

So, there is specifically not a single reason to try it with Latin(-based), and every other language may be a better shot...
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Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 19-01-2025, 02:30 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by MarcoP - 19-01-2025, 05:14 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 19-01-2025, 05:54 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Linda - 19-01-2025, 10:07 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by MarcoP - 19-01-2025, 07:02 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 25-01-2025, 09:27 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by MarcoP - 25-01-2025, 09:48 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by ReneZ - 25-01-2025, 10:07 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 25-01-2025, 01:13 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 26-01-2025, 04:56 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 19-06-2025, 04:56 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 19-06-2025, 05:23 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Linda - 26-01-2025, 04:19 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 26-01-2025, 05:09 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 16-06-2025, 10:44 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Rafal - 16-06-2025, 04:19 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 19-06-2025, 12:39 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 19-06-2025, 06:22 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 19-06-2025, 09:46 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 20-06-2025, 06:54 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 05-07-2025, 01:11 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 06-07-2025, 08:46 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by dfs346 - 06-07-2025, 11:17 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 19-06-2025, 09:54 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 20-06-2025, 01:18 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by Mauro - 20-06-2025, 04:50 PM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by ReneZ - 21-06-2025, 12:39 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 30-06-2025, 10:34 AM
RE: Which plaintext languages to try? - by oshfdk - 06-07-2025, 11:08 AM

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