02-10-2016, 05:49 PM
Stellar, as I said before, different values of Pi were used by different regions and times.
For example, the Egyptians you cited as an example used 3.1605, which is not the number you are showing in your numerology interpretations. In the 15th century there were various interpretations of Pi, as well.
You are assuming John Dee wrote this.
You are assuming he knew Welsh even though he was born in a London suburb and lived most of his life in the vicinity of London and eastern Europe.
You are assuming he used a Pythagorean numerology system rather than a typical Celtic/Welsh system.
You are piling one assumption on top of another.
I believe Dee would have been very interested in something like the VMS, but not so much for his plant content (he never showed much interest in plants, he was more interested in the occult, in alchemy, and in math). He sought out books with possible alchemical content. He kept voluminous diaries and never mentioned anything like the VMS. There are a few mentions of the Enochian book he developed together with Talbot ("Kelley") and a few references to Kelley's Book of Dunstan but no definite pointer to the VMS. Might he have seen it? Yes, if it was in Rudolph's collection at the time Dee was in Prague, it's somewhat possible that he did, as Rudolph apparently gave access to his "curiosities" to certain people. But if he did, he didn't mention it in his diaries and apparently he spent most of his time with other alchemists, not in Rudolph's presence and may only have met the emperor on a couple of occasions.
I don't know why you keep insisting it was done by John Dee when Kelley (who lived much closer to Wales and was already interested in the occult and numerology before he started working with Dee) is more known for this kind of thing. Shouldn't you be considering both possibilities (along with other possibilities)?
And thank you Oocephalus for that numerology example.
For example, the Egyptians you cited as an example used 3.1605, which is not the number you are showing in your numerology interpretations. In the 15th century there were various interpretations of Pi, as well.
You are assuming John Dee wrote this.
You are assuming he knew Welsh even though he was born in a London suburb and lived most of his life in the vicinity of London and eastern Europe.
You are assuming he used a Pythagorean numerology system rather than a typical Celtic/Welsh system.
You are piling one assumption on top of another.
I believe Dee would have been very interested in something like the VMS, but not so much for his plant content (he never showed much interest in plants, he was more interested in the occult, in alchemy, and in math). He sought out books with possible alchemical content. He kept voluminous diaries and never mentioned anything like the VMS. There are a few mentions of the Enochian book he developed together with Talbot ("Kelley") and a few references to Kelley's Book of Dunstan but no definite pointer to the VMS. Might he have seen it? Yes, if it was in Rudolph's collection at the time Dee was in Prague, it's somewhat possible that he did, as Rudolph apparently gave access to his "curiosities" to certain people. But if he did, he didn't mention it in his diaries and apparently he spent most of his time with other alchemists, not in Rudolph's presence and may only have met the emperor on a couple of occasions.
I don't know why you keep insisting it was done by John Dee when Kelley (who lived much closer to Wales and was already interested in the occult and numerology before he started working with Dee) is more known for this kind of thing. Shouldn't you be considering both possibilities (along with other possibilities)?
And thank you Oocephalus for that numerology example.