05-03-2025, 06:44 AM
I take the rings in quire 13 to denote other empires than the one that appears to be of interest. The large opening in the nebulous design seems to be analogous with the Sinope promontory and the bay it makes with promontory to the east. As it was until 1265 under various other rulers, and Turkish thereafter, it likely refers to the Ottoman Empire which had by 1400 taken over most of the area. It could denote an area more to the west of Sinope but by then this area had also been taken over, and only Constantinople remained of the Byzantine empire, which is denoted by the other large nymph with a flower headdress to the left of the blue one. I could not find an example of the blue headdress but Constantinople is evidently known since at least the time of Pliny with regard to roses of various kinds.
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I don't know what the labels mean. The label near the one that is standing in the Danube Delta is on various flower, circle, zodiac, text only, "recipe" and other quire 13 pages, except the one with what I think of as the Danube! But it is the same name as the nymph i think stands for Genoa, on f80r, so that might mean something, especially since she also holds a spindel that i think of as matching the one at the Danube Delta, indicating an alternate way to travel than through the Sea of Marmora to the Mediterranean. The Sinope label is a one of, does not occur elsewhere. Constantinople, one of. The second word with it, 25 times, again in a lot of different pages. The one above that, in the cosmos drawing in what would be the water section, and in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in what seems to me to be Lake Urmia. The next one, all over the place. Next one, not so many but roots and stars mainly. The label near the waterfall that would be the strait between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea is a one of. The label for the nymph in blue water is a one of, could be Georgia, Colchis, or a town at the river Delta. Currently it is Poti, on the Phasis or Rioni river. The Argonauts would have sailed here.
From wiki: After many years of uncertainty and academic debate, the site of this settlement now seems to be established, thanks to underwater archaeology under tough conditions. Apparently, the lake which the well-informed Ancient Greek author Strabo reported as bounding one side of Phasis has now engulfed it, or part of it.
This matches what has been drawn, which I take to be a freshwater lake in a river delta, or a freshwater port of the sea, which is why it seems like a separate part of the sea, but is not to scale, so it is a bit of obfuscation.
Rightmost small nymph, zodiac, plants, recipes, and also at the top of the page. Similar but more for the next one, the third one toward the middle is a one of. Those three seem to equate with Trebizond. It is interesting that in one of the portolan charts in the previous message shows three red names in that area, amongst the black ones, but I can't read the names in that photo.
I don't know what the labels mean. The label near the one that is standing in the Danube Delta is on various flower, circle, zodiac, text only, "recipe" and other quire 13 pages, except the one with what I think of as the Danube! But it is the same name as the nymph i think stands for Genoa, on f80r, so that might mean something, especially since she also holds a spindel that i think of as matching the one at the Danube Delta, indicating an alternate way to travel than through the Sea of Marmora to the Mediterranean. The Sinope label is a one of, does not occur elsewhere. Constantinople, one of. The second word with it, 25 times, again in a lot of different pages. The one above that, in the cosmos drawing in what would be the water section, and in You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. in what seems to me to be Lake Urmia. The next one, all over the place. Next one, not so many but roots and stars mainly. The label near the waterfall that would be the strait between the Sea of Azov and the Black Sea is a one of. The label for the nymph in blue water is a one of, could be Georgia, Colchis, or a town at the river Delta. Currently it is Poti, on the Phasis or Rioni river. The Argonauts would have sailed here.
From wiki: After many years of uncertainty and academic debate, the site of this settlement now seems to be established, thanks to underwater archaeology under tough conditions. Apparently, the lake which the well-informed Ancient Greek author Strabo reported as bounding one side of Phasis has now engulfed it, or part of it.
This matches what has been drawn, which I take to be a freshwater lake in a river delta, or a freshwater port of the sea, which is why it seems like a separate part of the sea, but is not to scale, so it is a bit of obfuscation.
Rightmost small nymph, zodiac, plants, recipes, and also at the top of the page. Similar but more for the next one, the third one toward the middle is a one of. Those three seem to equate with Trebizond. It is interesting that in one of the portolan charts in the previous message shows three red names in that area, amongst the black ones, but I can't read the names in that photo.


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