22-12-2024, 02:42 PM
I just wanted to give a small update before heading off to family for xmas
Glyphs are currently as follows
Switch - ">"
a, o
Line - "\"
i, n, m
Curve - "c"
c, e, g, h, q, b
Double curve - "cc"
ch, s
Triple curve - "ccc"
sh
Line-curve - "k"
t, k, p, f, l, r, d
Transition - "c>kc" (benched gallows)
c-gallows-h
"Wildcard" - x
y
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kxk>\\x xkcc>k k>\\\ >kcc>k xkcc>\\\ c>kc>kccx
k>kcc>kx cck>k cc ccc>k c>kcx c>k>
c>k>\\\ c>kccx x cc>k ccx xkx cc>\\\
cc>\\kx cck>k kx c>kcx k>kcc cc>k>\\\ k
>k>cc>k (otochor) >k ccc>k>\\\ cc>k k>\ xkcc>\\\ k>\
cc>\\\ k >\\ k k k>k cc>k xk>kkx (ytoldy) kcc>k kccx c>kcx
ccc>k c>kcx k>\\\x cc>k k>\
kxk>\\ ccc>\\\ c>x cc ccc>k k>k>\ xkccc >kcccccx k>\\kkx (daiildy)
kkccccc> (dlssho) k>k cccccx c>kcx xk>kx cc> cc>k xkx k>\\\ k>\\k>k
c>kx cc>k>\\\ ccc>k ccc>k ccckx (sheky) k>\\\ c>kccx kc>k cc>\\\ cc>\\\
xcc>\\ k>k ccx k>k>k ccc>\ k>\ >kcc >\\\ cccccx c>kc>k
>k>k ccx cc>k c>kc>k x>k >\ cc>\ cc>\\\ ccckx (chety) ccxkx cc>k
ccc> xkccx cccx k>\\\ ccc>kcx
Non-conforming words noted above in brackets.
otochor - is likely "oto chor"
ytoldy - words with "ld/dl" are an issue currently
daiildy - might be "daiil dy" but again "ld/dl" problem
dlssho - very likely "dls sho", "ld/dl" issue again
sheky - "ek" and e+gallows in general is another issue
chety - same as above e+gallows issue
There are many more issues with the system beyond this page awaiting Currier B's "ed" for example.
My current thought is that e+gallows might be a "half benched glyph" (if that is the correct term?) so cth, but just ct for example
"d" might work like "y", they are very baked into one another in the text (6819 "dy" matches)
So that is where I am currently, it works for a good portion of the text with lots of previous "freedoms" removed
Next steps are clearing up how "d" works, and "e+gallows"
So if we look at Koens "How many of these are valid Voynichese words?"
tir ty aa na ichin iini tan chom qa aiina ar aaak iini qaiiik latir
dat qa dan qala tana maqar tyny ony kaiinaiin dani tani iti tom eeiti
taniiin lar dana mi daqaea naqan danin tyraqa saiinan okqyiiyny nadik
lich diiinqi donra an iiny iinidin dy ta otka tiras onea iinydyn eeysak
laqi ona iti okqy tam kyklan tani totka eeari aiiar tika onyn idkitoryiin
chynmy tikitoryiin eearchamkan arkim takmi lami miiin lat tadma kam qoiiry
tat okaram tytym tyrata tiri kanriiin okan daniriiin aqaiin okaeam okyr
tarqiiin qaiinam lichtir tikiinitoryiin alanqiiin naraqa tynyn tis
kadammyrkar ika oraqa iinarlata
Invalid (43)
tir - k\k
ichin - \cc\\
latir - k>k\k
kaiinaiin - k>\\\>\\\
iti - \k\
eeiti - cc\k\
daqaea - k>c>c>
tyraqa - kxk>c>
saiinan - cc>\\\>\
nadik - \>k\k
lich - k\cc
diiinqi - k\\\\c\
donra - k>\k>
iinidin - \\\\k\\
otka - >kk>
tiras - k\k>cc
onea - >\c>
laqi - k>c\
iti - \k\
kyklan - kxkk>\
totka - k>kk>
eeari - cc>k\
aiiar - >\\>k
tika - k\k>
idkitoryiin - \kk\k>kx\\\
tikitoryiin - k\k\k>kx\\\
eearchamkan - cc>kcc>kk>\
arkim - >kk\\
takmi - k>k\\
tadma - k>k\>
tiri - k\k\
kanriiin - k>\k\\\\
daniriiin - k>\\k\\\\
okaeam - >k>c>\
tarqiiin - k>kc\\\\
qaiinam - c>\\\>\
lichtir - k\cck\k
tikiinitoryiin - k\k\\\\k>kx\\\
alanqiiin - >k>\c\\\\
naraqa - \>k>c>
tis - k\cc
oraqa - >k>c>
iinarlata - \\\>kK>k>
Valid (57)
ty - kx
aa - >>
na - \>
inni - \\\\
tan - k>\
chom - cc>\
qa - c>
aiina - >\\\>
ar - >k
aaak - >>>k
iini - \\\\
qaiiik - c>\\\k
dat - k>k
qa - c>
dan - k>\
qala - c>k>
tana - k>\>
maqar - \>c>k
tyny - kx\x
ony - >\x
dani - k>\\
tani - k>\\
tom - k>\
taniin - k>\\\\
lar - k>k
dana - k>\>
mi - \\
naqan - \>c>\
danin - k>\\\
okqyiiyny - >kcx\\x\x
an - >\
iiny - \\\x
dy - kx
ta - k>
iinydyn - \\\xkx\
eeysak - ccxcc>k
ona - >\>
okqy - >kcx
tam - k>\
tani - k>\\
onyn - >\x\
chynmy - ccx\\x
lami - k>\\
miiin - \\\\\
lat - k>k
kam - k>\
qoiiry - c>\\kx
tat - k>k
okaram - >k>k>\
tytym - kxkx\
tyrata - kxk>k>
okan - >k>\
aqaiin - >c>\\\
okyr - >kxk
tynyn - kx\x\
kadammyrkar - k>k>\\xk>k
ika - \k>
Glyphs are currently as follows
Switch - ">"
a, o
Line - "\"
i, n, m
Curve - "c"
c, e, g, h, q, b
Double curve - "cc"
ch, s
Triple curve - "ccc"
sh
Line-curve - "k"
t, k, p, f, l, r, d
Transition - "c>kc" (benched gallows)
c-gallows-h
"Wildcard" - x
y
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kxk>\\x xkcc>k k>\\\ >kcc>k xkcc>\\\ c>kc>kccx
k>kcc>kx cck>k cc ccc>k c>kcx c>k>
c>k>\\\ c>kccx x cc>k ccx xkx cc>\\\
cc>\\kx cck>k kx c>kcx k>kcc cc>k>\\\ k
>k>cc>k (otochor) >k ccc>k>\\\ cc>k k>\ xkcc>\\\ k>\
cc>\\\ k >\\ k k k>k cc>k xk>kkx (ytoldy) kcc>k kccx c>kcx
ccc>k c>kcx k>\\\x cc>k k>\
kxk>\\ ccc>\\\ c>x cc ccc>k k>k>\ xkccc >kcccccx k>\\kkx (daiildy)
kkccccc> (dlssho) k>k cccccx c>kcx xk>kx cc> cc>k xkx k>\\\ k>\\k>k
c>kx cc>k>\\\ ccc>k ccc>k ccckx (sheky) k>\\\ c>kccx kc>k cc>\\\ cc>\\\
xcc>\\ k>k ccx k>k>k ccc>\ k>\ >kcc >\\\ cccccx c>kc>k
>k>k ccx cc>k c>kc>k x>k >\ cc>\ cc>\\\ ccckx (chety) ccxkx cc>k
ccc> xkccx cccx k>\\\ ccc>kcx
Non-conforming words noted above in brackets.
otochor - is likely "oto chor"
ytoldy - words with "ld/dl" are an issue currently
daiildy - might be "daiil dy" but again "ld/dl" problem
dlssho - very likely "dls sho", "ld/dl" issue again
sheky - "ek" and e+gallows in general is another issue
chety - same as above e+gallows issue
There are many more issues with the system beyond this page awaiting Currier B's "ed" for example.
My current thought is that e+gallows might be a "half benched glyph" (if that is the correct term?) so cth, but just ct for example
"d" might work like "y", they are very baked into one another in the text (6819 "dy" matches)
So that is where I am currently, it works for a good portion of the text with lots of previous "freedoms" removed
Next steps are clearing up how "d" works, and "e+gallows"
So if we look at Koens "How many of these are valid Voynichese words?"
tir ty aa na ichin iini tan chom qa aiina ar aaak iini qaiiik latir
dat qa dan qala tana maqar tyny ony kaiinaiin dani tani iti tom eeiti
taniiin lar dana mi daqaea naqan danin tyraqa saiinan okqyiiyny nadik
lich diiinqi donra an iiny iinidin dy ta otka tiras onea iinydyn eeysak
laqi ona iti okqy tam kyklan tani totka eeari aiiar tika onyn idkitoryiin
chynmy tikitoryiin eearchamkan arkim takmi lami miiin lat tadma kam qoiiry
tat okaram tytym tyrata tiri kanriiin okan daniriiin aqaiin okaeam okyr
tarqiiin qaiinam lichtir tikiinitoryiin alanqiiin naraqa tynyn tis
kadammyrkar ika oraqa iinarlata
Invalid (43)
tir - k\k
ichin - \cc\\
latir - k>k\k
kaiinaiin - k>\\\>\\\
iti - \k\
eeiti - cc\k\
daqaea - k>c>c>
tyraqa - kxk>c>
saiinan - cc>\\\>\
nadik - \>k\k
lich - k\cc
diiinqi - k\\\\c\
donra - k>\k>
iinidin - \\\\k\\
otka - >kk>
tiras - k\k>cc
onea - >\c>
laqi - k>c\
iti - \k\
kyklan - kxkk>\
totka - k>kk>
eeari - cc>k\
aiiar - >\\>k
tika - k\k>
idkitoryiin - \kk\k>kx\\\
tikitoryiin - k\k\k>kx\\\
eearchamkan - cc>kcc>kk>\
arkim - >kk\\
takmi - k>k\\
tadma - k>k\>
tiri - k\k\
kanriiin - k>\k\\\\
daniriiin - k>\\k\\\\
okaeam - >k>c>\
tarqiiin - k>kc\\\\
qaiinam - c>\\\>\
lichtir - k\cck\k
tikiinitoryiin - k\k\\\\k>kx\\\
alanqiiin - >k>\c\\\\
naraqa - \>k>c>
tis - k\cc
oraqa - >k>c>
iinarlata - \\\>kK>k>
Valid (57)
ty - kx
aa - >>
na - \>
inni - \\\\
tan - k>\
chom - cc>\
qa - c>
aiina - >\\\>
ar - >k
aaak - >>>k
iini - \\\\
qaiiik - c>\\\k
dat - k>k
qa - c>
dan - k>\
qala - c>k>
tana - k>\>
maqar - \>c>k
tyny - kx\x
ony - >\x
dani - k>\\
tani - k>\\
tom - k>\
taniin - k>\\\\
lar - k>k
dana - k>\>
mi - \\
naqan - \>c>\
danin - k>\\\
okqyiiyny - >kcx\\x\x
an - >\
iiny - \\\x
dy - kx
ta - k>
iinydyn - \\\xkx\
eeysak - ccxcc>k
ona - >\>
okqy - >kcx
tam - k>\
tani - k>\\
onyn - >\x\
chynmy - ccx\\x
lami - k>\\
miiin - \\\\\
lat - k>k
kam - k>\
qoiiry - c>\\kx
tat - k>k
okaram - >k>k>\
tytym - kxkx\
tyrata - kxk>k>
okan - >k>\
aqaiin - >c>\\\
okyr - >kxk
tynyn - kx\x\
kadammyrkar - k>k>\\xk>k
ika - \k>


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