08-10-2024, 07:51 PM
(06-10-2024, 03:28 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I"
"All the students of the manuscript from 1945 till present accepted the facts about authenticity of around 14-th century ink and velum."
I am not so well with rich vocabulary (like You are) being an engineer, but your table above proves no doubt about it, that it could not had been Voynich in 16-th century forgering the Manuscript.
So therefore it was not him! Point.
(06-10-2024, 03:28 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I don't believe all the plants, or all of the plant parts, are fake. I don't think anyone does, whether they believe the Voynich real, fake, old or new. I used the generalization "fake plants" (or however I worded it) for the sake of brevity. But in answer to your question, "why" would a faker include well known plants, along with fake plants? Dunno. It might sound dismissive and even petty, but I mean this, "Why not?". A forger could include all real, all fake, some fake some real, some made of real and fake parts, in any forgery, for a multitude of reasons. I don't think, in any conceivable case, it alters the outcome."
Too many words are on the market, but not in the research science. How do you think? Voynich dicided to include known plants in the case he was producing forgery with fantastic ones? Too improbable I would say (p= 0.000000001).
(06-10-2024, 03:28 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Well that is a matter of opinion, I don't think a forger would have had to have been a genius to do this. I know of many fake books created, which are often really quite amazing, and I also don't think genius was necessary."
Money for the velum and ink, money for the all real forgeries on plants, pharmacies , recipes, "naked women phantasies"?
"And at last if it really be a forgery - which is the document from which was copied to be created? What is the provenience and underlying language of the forgery?"
(06-10-2024, 03:28 PM)proto57 wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I see in this the old "bugaboo" of definition........Rich. no answer to the last question. Only many words and white noise ( known in the radio technics).
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Rich.
* Just speculation, as all of it necessarily is, but "IF" the Voynich has meaning I think the plain text will relate to activities, items and people in the early 17th century Court of Rudolf II, as (poorly) understood by the 1904 book, "Follies of Science in the Court of Rudolf II". Your mileage may vary.
BR: Vessy


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