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(17-09-2023, 10:22 AM)bi3mw wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Ok, now it fits. However, the value ( Consensus ) in the gallery under the other plants is often 0%. Shouldn't something else also be written there most of the time ? Or is only counted when a vote is submitted ( > 0 )?
Good question.   
The calculation for the Consensus score is an arbitrary one (as there is no official standard way to quantify consensus).  Its definition and that of the individual Proposal ID Scores are explained on the About page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.. And I agree, it is imperfect.
The Consensus score becomes non-zero once there are at least two proposals and one of them shows a  greater agreement than the other(s).  
I think this makes sense when there is more than one proposal and they are all "tied" --- since, in that situation, there is no one answer that people tend to agree is best. And these are the cases where you are seeing 0%.

But your concern brings up some good points...
When there is only a single proposal, then the Consensus score takes on the same value as the Proposal ID Score of that proposal.  In this case, unless there is at least one vote in disagreement with that proposal, then the score jumps to a full 100%.  Now if a million people agree with the only proposal on the table and no one disagrees, it does seem okay to say that the consensus is essentially "100%". But what if there are only a few people expressing any opinion on the matter and they all agree? Or what if there is only a single person making any proposal at all and no one disagrees with it? Do we call that a 100% consensus?  Arguably not.

But, as a practical matter, we need to decide what population has a stake in determining consensus. The only answer that I can only come up with is this:  Out of all the population (of the world) available, we can only consider those who have expressed *some* opinion on the matter. If that is just a single person saying they agree, and no one is expressing a disagreement, or even proposing an alternative, then it seems we have no choice but to call that a 100% consensus. And further agreements don't change that answer. Only once there is some expression of disagreement does consensus fall below 100%.

I hope this makes sense.
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The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 15-09-2023, 10:57 PM
RE: The Voynich Garden - by Koen G - 15-09-2023, 11:09 PM
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RE: The Voynich Garden - by bi3mw - 16-09-2023, 01:23 PM
RE: The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 16-09-2023, 03:30 PM
RE: The Voynich Garden - by Koen G - 16-09-2023, 01:37 PM
RE: The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 16-09-2023, 03:50 PM
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RE: The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 17-09-2023, 08:40 PM
RE: The Voynich Garden - by bi3mw - 16-09-2023, 03:34 PM
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RE: The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 16-09-2023, 07:25 PM
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RE: The Voynich Garden - by asteckley - 17-09-2023, 04:05 PM
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