22-07-2023, 05:38 PM
I think those are common in English, not in German. The point is that in German the respective common ending is "-hs" or "ck[e]s", but somehow it is changed into "-x".
The letterform that looks somewhat like X is also is some Voynich words, but very infrequently, just like the letter H is used unfrequently, because is usually connected to c and combined into bench glyph ch. In Slovenian, X was replaced with ks, however in the old Glagolitza the X stood for H sound and letter. When Glagolitza split into Cyrilica, the X was (and still is) used for letter H.
We can assume that whoever wrote the marginalia was old and senile, mixing the letter-shapes and languages, as is evident from the 'sloppy' handwriting and the use of OROR. However, he might have been familiar with Glagolitic alphabet. The proof of the interest in Glagolitza in German speaking world is the Glagolitic book of Georgius de Sclavonia, a native of Brežice, present day Slovenia, written in about 1400 at the Vienna University. He wrote this book before he started teaching at Sarbone in Paris. J.K. Petersen mentioned him in connection with the shape of the letter 'g' in marginalia.
The assumption that the text is a recipe that includes goat liver might be misleading and limits other possibilities.
I just quickly made a comparison of my reading of the words containing x with Smith and Petersen.
My reading is meaninful and is also consistent with the way the words could be spelled in the 15th century Slovnian. I read the word POXLEBEN as POHLEVEN, which means 'meek', 'timid'. B and V were often mixed up, like Beneto - Veneto. The word that follows is VMEN/UMEN which is Slovenian means 'smart', 'of good mind'. I read both, and the next word, as adjectives with -en suffix.
The two similar words containing X are transcribed by Smith as Maria(x) and by Petersen as MORIX and MARIX respectively. I read them as MONIH and MANYX. Since the first vowel is unstressed semivowel, the author was not sure which vowel to use to replace the original spellig MNIX (monk).
The word SIX, spelled with a long s, could mean english SIX, or Old German SEHS.
These are just a few ideas.
(22-07-2023, 11:12 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.There has been quite a discussion on the word 'poxleber' in the old forum
The letterform that looks somewhat like X is also is some Voynich words, but very infrequently, just like the letter H is used unfrequently, because is usually connected to c and combined into bench glyph ch. In Slovenian, X was replaced with ks, however in the old Glagolitza the X stood for H sound and letter. When Glagolitza split into Cyrilica, the X was (and still is) used for letter H.
We can assume that whoever wrote the marginalia was old and senile, mixing the letter-shapes and languages, as is evident from the 'sloppy' handwriting and the use of OROR. However, he might have been familiar with Glagolitic alphabet. The proof of the interest in Glagolitza in German speaking world is the Glagolitic book of Georgius de Sclavonia, a native of Brežice, present day Slovenia, written in about 1400 at the Vienna University. He wrote this book before he started teaching at Sarbone in Paris. J.K. Petersen mentioned him in connection with the shape of the letter 'g' in marginalia.
The assumption that the text is a recipe that includes goat liver might be misleading and limits other possibilities.
I just quickly made a comparison of my reading of the words containing x with Smith and Petersen.
My reading is meaninful and is also consistent with the way the words could be spelled in the 15th century Slovnian. I read the word POXLEBEN as POHLEVEN, which means 'meek', 'timid'. B and V were often mixed up, like Beneto - Veneto. The word that follows is VMEN/UMEN which is Slovenian means 'smart', 'of good mind'. I read both, and the next word, as adjectives with -en suffix.
The two similar words containing X are transcribed by Smith as Maria(x) and by Petersen as MORIX and MARIX respectively. I read them as MONIH and MANYX. Since the first vowel is unstressed semivowel, the author was not sure which vowel to use to replace the original spellig MNIX (monk).
The word SIX, spelled with a long s, could mean english SIX, or Old German SEHS.
These are just a few ideas.