For the sake of comparison between [texts in] different languages it would be methodologically correct to compare differences in h2/h1 figures (instead of those in absolute h2 figures). Since different languages would have different h0, and also h0 itself slightly changes when you remove spaces.
My idea has been that there is "verbosity", but not in terms of using a verbose cipher known at the time, but just as a side effect of the adopted procedure. I even worked out a fancy term "not-so-verbose-cipher" for this kind, meaning that verbosity is not intended as such.
What I think is worth much attention is that spaces are oftentimes very carelessly placed, as if it did not matter whether a space is present in a given place or not. If spaces are just side effect of a certain procedure, then removing spaces you lose nothing. As I illustrated with one artificial but practical example in my January posting,
But then there remains that obstacle of labels... any idea of removing spaces (or adding more spaces), mine included, should be somehow reconciled with the labels existence, and that is somewhat challenging.
(20-05-2022, 10:45 AM)Koen G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.If we assume a verbose cipher and omit spaces as a variable, it is possible to reach normal entropy values for Voynichese.
My idea has been that there is "verbosity", but not in terms of using a verbose cipher known at the time, but just as a side effect of the adopted procedure. I even worked out a fancy term "not-so-verbose-cipher" for this kind, meaning that verbosity is not intended as such.
What I think is worth much attention is that spaces are oftentimes very carelessly placed, as if it did not matter whether a space is present in a given place or not. If spaces are just side effect of a certain procedure, then removing spaces you lose nothing. As I illustrated with one artificial but practical example in my January posting,
Quote:Thirdly, we suddenly obtain the freedom to be as careless with our spacings as the Voynich scribes are. Indeed, we know that sub-alphabet character sequences will always alternate, so wherever there is a switch from the second sub-alphabet to the first one, we know that this is the plaintext word boundary.
But then there remains that obstacle of labels... any idea of removing spaces (or adding more spaces), mine included, should be somehow reconciled with the labels existence, and that is somewhat challenging.