[split] Verbose cipher?

[RobGea]

Could you please share an example of your results?

Sure, no problem,
the program is simply a modified version of the entropy calculator its nothing very special, it was created to have some base code that i could improve and evolve.

Here using only digrams -with spaces in the digrams allowed- , it gets to about 11 replacements then
starts using spaces and then the word length start to increase tremendously, at 20 replacements
it produces words -if they can be called that anymore- that are 70+chars long.

Using the Recipes / Stars section ZL.2a ( no words with '?', uncertain spaces as spaces)
11 replacements

Code:

Alphabet:    '+0123456789acdefghijklmnopqrstuxy  uses 35 characters How many n-grams: 486 best_replacement: 'am' h0: 5.169925001442312    h1: 3.9032675101280243    h2: 2.486713645582145    h1-h2: 1.4165538645458793 p0ed+ 3dy yte0yp0y otey 5teey 5t+ 3edy y3d+ d6 ok+ d+dy d6 3ek 0cphhdy d+oky op0edy pe3ol 0ep 7 ot0y s+ lkeey s7 6 0edy y3d6 3eek 0eoty eeok+ 0edy 0ckhy or orol ok4 ee+ ot k7 ot7 0+ y0edy 8edy okedy 8

12 replacements

Code:

Alphabet:    '+0123456789@acdefghijklmnopqrstuxy  uses 36 characters How many n-grams: 502 best_replacement: 'y ' h0: 5.20945336562895    h1: 4.069233983222757    h2: 2.669898154770486    h1-h2: 1.399335828452271 p0ed+ 3dAyte0yp0AoteA5teeA5t+ 3edAy3d+ d6 ok+ d+dAd6 3ek 0cphhdAd+okAop0edApe3ol 0ep 7 ot0As+ lkeeAs7 6 0edAy3d6 3eek 0eotAeeok+ 0edA0ckhAor orol ok4 ee+ ot k7 ot7 0+ y0edA8edAokedA8eeAokeA0d7 ol lotA

Isn't what Nick describes kind of the same as what I've been doing (Entropy Hunting posts)?

From what i can tell, yes.

The way i figure it is, we use these entropy measures to identify Voynich glyphs that can be replaced.
Then somewhere down the line we replace those glyphs with some n-grams from our preferred language and Bingo !
Thats my current understanding of the verbose-cipher attack, quite how wrong i am i don't know.

I used h1-h2 as a metric because it seems to help keep h1 in check, at least a little, compared to just using h2
and it was simple, so allowed me to put some code together.
As nickpelling says, it needs some kind of entropy combo metric to get some worthwhile results.
But i don't even know what a worthwhile result would look like.