31-03-2022, 11:35 PM
[quote="Aga Tentakulus" pid='49714' dateline='1648685350']
[What you don't seem to see is that the language convergence came with the media of newspapers, radio, TV, and the naming of new achievements of the 18th-20th centuries.
But you are in the early 15th century. Travelling was quite different then. With luck you had an ox cart.]
Dear Tentakulus,
I think differently about the subject you mentioned here.
What is the "new achievement" of the 18th centuries" for average linguist?
İf this about introducing the concept of PIE in the field of linguistics, I'm afraid I must say that the so-called PIE is a huge balloon and this balloon has been inflated since the 18th century.
Of course, human can't inflate a balloon forever included myself. Then, when someone comes and hits the needle, it is understood that the mass is empty.
In other words, before assuming that the Western history and linguistics teaching overlaps with the facts, I suggest you learn what scientists have written on this subject in the East like linguist and historian Mr. Arif Cengiz Erman.
If you do not do this, of course, it becomes difficult to understand that the created (manufacturing) concept called PIE, which you attribute to linguistics, is an empty claim devoid of scientific evidence.
Or, an other person may have a perception such as "There are hot springs in Italy. So the women who were drawn while bathing in pools in the book were drawn by an Italian speaking person".
Human beings have been traveling long distances for thousands of years.
When Erden Eruç aimed to make a complete world tour in a boat, using only muscle power (rowing) and crossing the oceans, he could calculate & estimate using mathematics in how many days he would be able to make this journey. It is now moving towards a new target in the middle of the ocean.
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Erden Eruç is rowing in the ocean to reach a certain goal. Of course, it wouldn't have been a success without his experience of how this type of trip should be made. He can decide which route to go and reach the result because he knows his job well.
There are also multiple methods of reading old unreadable texts like VM. We have decided which methods we will use in our work long time ago and we continue in that way.
You cannot explain the Turkish content of an old text whose dialect we cannot define and which contains many abbreviations, with the frequency of use of the letters in the text. In VM, some of the word looking structures that look like two or three words are actually a single word. In this case, the calculating of words structer or frequency of letters will not solve the problem.
In order to read clearly, it is necessary to make an accurate transcription. We have one and it works. The evidence we show is also presented to show that it works. You cannot use the statistical status of the letters for Turkish whose dialect is unknown and deliberately manipulated. However, we have shown examples of the overlapping of word structures.
Thanks
[What you don't seem to see is that the language convergence came with the media of newspapers, radio, TV, and the naming of new achievements of the 18th-20th centuries.
But you are in the early 15th century. Travelling was quite different then. With luck you had an ox cart.]
Dear Tentakulus,
I think differently about the subject you mentioned here.
What is the "new achievement" of the 18th centuries" for average linguist?
İf this about introducing the concept of PIE in the field of linguistics, I'm afraid I must say that the so-called PIE is a huge balloon and this balloon has been inflated since the 18th century.
Of course, human can't inflate a balloon forever included myself. Then, when someone comes and hits the needle, it is understood that the mass is empty.
In other words, before assuming that the Western history and linguistics teaching overlaps with the facts, I suggest you learn what scientists have written on this subject in the East like linguist and historian Mr. Arif Cengiz Erman.
If you do not do this, of course, it becomes difficult to understand that the created (manufacturing) concept called PIE, which you attribute to linguistics, is an empty claim devoid of scientific evidence.
Or, an other person may have a perception such as "There are hot springs in Italy. So the women who were drawn while bathing in pools in the book were drawn by an Italian speaking person".
Human beings have been traveling long distances for thousands of years.
When Erden Eruç aimed to make a complete world tour in a boat, using only muscle power (rowing) and crossing the oceans, he could calculate & estimate using mathematics in how many days he would be able to make this journey. It is now moving towards a new target in the middle of the ocean.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
Erden Eruç is rowing in the ocean to reach a certain goal. Of course, it wouldn't have been a success without his experience of how this type of trip should be made. He can decide which route to go and reach the result because he knows his job well.
There are also multiple methods of reading old unreadable texts like VM. We have decided which methods we will use in our work long time ago and we continue in that way.
You cannot explain the Turkish content of an old text whose dialect we cannot define and which contains many abbreviations, with the frequency of use of the letters in the text. In VM, some of the word looking structures that look like two or three words are actually a single word. In this case, the calculating of words structer or frequency of letters will not solve the problem.
In order to read clearly, it is necessary to make an accurate transcription. We have one and it works. The evidence we show is also presented to show that it works. You cannot use the statistical status of the letters for Turkish whose dialect is unknown and deliberately manipulated. However, we have shown examples of the overlapping of word structures.
Thanks