Poll: CH_ and SH_ words are similar
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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words
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(05-11-2019, 08:56 PM)Davidsch wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Based on EVA. 

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I assume that sh_ and ch_ words are the same, because they behave the same and have same contacts

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If sh... words are always compacter than ch..words in the entire text,

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could this strongly signal that sh...words are compacter because the diacritic mark above signals an abbreviation?

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if the answer is yes, can we assume that sh... words are abbreviated versions on the same ch... words and what letters could be compacted there?


CH and SH have similar function and similar sound, but they are not the same. In Slovenian, CH represents the sound Č which in the Middle Ages was spelled as CH or ZH. Slavic languages distinguished two Č sounds - soft and hard. Croatians and Serbians still use two different letters: ć and č. Since they were hard to tell apart, Slovenians in 16th century adapted only one Č for both Slavic sounds. There are also two other Slavic letters that fall into this category: the letters Š (sh) and Ž (similar to J in joy) . In some words, Š sounds more like Č, in others more like Ž.  The differentiation of these sounds is still causing spelling mistakes in Slovenian. As a separate words, CH and SH are dialectal phonetic spelling of the words CHE and SHE. In fast speech, the vowels, and some consonants were often dropped, and sometimes such short words were spelled together with the next word. The word CHE means  'if', and 'še' means 'yet'. Voynich EVA words RCHY and RSHY (assuming the E as a second letter is inserted to replace unwritten semi-vowel, and Y changed to I, since Y does not exist in Slovenian), are two distinct words: RECHI means 'things' or 'you say!' and  REŠI means 'save', 'protect'. To add to the confusion, sometimes C was used for sound Č, or CI for ČI, S for Š or Ž. On the other hand, ROŽA (flower) was often spelled as ROSA, but since this word also means 'a dew', some spelled it as ROSHA - ROŠA.  I noticed the author of the VM had a lot of problems with this letters. This was further complicated because the VM-h had the same shape as C (Latin K), and Z had similar shape as C ( as EVA-h), because the connecting line in cursive letters was an extended straight line of C.
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sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by Davidsch - 05-11-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 06-11-2019, 06:46 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 08-11-2019, 09:36 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 07:05 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 06:59 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by -JKP- - 10-11-2019, 08:58 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 12-11-2019, 07:39 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 13-11-2019, 06:24 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 08:44 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 14-11-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 09:47 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 12:29 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 15-11-2019, 03:39 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 06:51 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 09:39 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 16-11-2019, 10:40 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 17-11-2019, 08:50 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 17-11-2019, 03:25 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 18-11-2019, 03:54 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 25-11-2019, 06:38 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 25-11-2019, 04:41 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 23-11-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by ReneZ - 27-11-2019, 05:55 AM
RE: sh_ and ch_ compose the same words - by cvetkakocj@rogers.com - 23-01-2022, 03:11 AM

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