22-07-2016, 06:49 PM
![[Image: f009r_crd.jpg]](http://www.voynich.nu/q02/f009r_crd.jpg)
Hi Don,
Sorry but I can't see your ID in this plant diagram.
I always thought the leaves looked a bit like rampant lions.
I don't really see the bird head connection, and if so, why four of them in a pinwheel then, and why so deformed most of the time? I can see a bit of resemblance of the leaves of your identified plant but it's problematic that the flowers and root do not match your ID at all. Also I believe that other folios better represent possible geranium species elsewhere in the manuscript,for example f5r, f36r, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
I haven't made a final decision on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. yet but I tend toward Steve D's ID of Rumex crispus due to the fact that the flowers/seeds and roots match well and the leaves can somewhat be seen to match in that they are curly. Also the seeds look like lion heads with mane, making a possible connection with the rampant lion, and the plant is certainly rampant in its growth and spread with over 40000 seeds on a plant that can lie dormant for 50 years. Here are some pics to consider for this alternate ID:
![[Image: yellow-dock-root-2-88.jpg?w=533]](https://backwaterbotanics.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/yellow-dock-root-2-88.jpg?w=533)
![[Image: e0ecbd4eba27b9fe9ae11295c389defe.jpg]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e0/ec/bd/e0ecbd4eba27b9fe9ae11295c389defe.jpg)
![[Image: yellow%20dock%202.jpg]](https://www.herballygrounded.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/yellow%20dock%202.jpg)
![[Image: Rumex_crispus_plant.jpg]](http://www.missouriplants.com/Greenalt/Rumex_crispus_plant.jpg)
![[Image: rumex-crispus-fl-atal.jpg]](http://newfs.s3.amazonaws.com/taxon-images-1000s1000/Polygonaceae/rumex-crispus-fl-atal.jpg)
![[Image: Logos1218643578.jpg]](http://www.wildcrafting.net/forage/upload/display/Logos1218643578.jpg)
![[Image: root.jpg]](http://pick4.pick.uga.edu/nh/tx/Plantae/Dicotyledoneae/Polygonaceae/Rumex/crispus/images/root.jpg)

