Hi Koen,
Rats I just lost a long answer just before I was going to send it, but your questions helped me find some answers along the way that I won't forget. I'll just post the best example for now which is the Fra Mauro map, everything is kinda upside down and on its side, but there is the Caspian with all the rivers I mentioned, and a tiny Aral that only has the Syrdarya attached. 1457-9
![[Image: 517962.jpg]](http://images.cdn.bridgemanimages.com/api/1.0/image/600wm.XXX.1411250.7055475/517962.jpg)
^^^Amudarya & Uzboy ^^^^tiny Aral w/Syrdarya only, then the Ural
I'll prepare some more examples offline this time so I don't lose it again! ^^^^^^^ big blue river is the Volga, if that helps orient things, note the green loopy river to the side of the pic. Gorgan on the other side of pic.
Hi Sam,
Actually I think this page was one of the last I figured out, and only because of where they fit into the whole did I finally recognize them, especially due to how they are situated on the page. The bodies of water I think are shown have the distinction of being two of the largest in the world (when not dry), and which are located right between Europe and Asia, which makes it more likely to be talked about or occur on a map than a lake that happens to have that exact shape. I actually got started from the idea of the seven seas from the seven "waves" in the Rosette with the T-O Map attached. You're right, nothing is a precise match, however, I think that's been done on purpose, both as a means of hiding information in plain sight and as a commentary on the fact that all maps are not precise copies of each other, there is evolution both in a forward and backward sense as we move through time, which also hides the fact that things actually change over time while that is happening, which again gets lost and written off as "mistakes" to be corrected with current data. One of the things Strabo says about the Caspian is that is is named after the Caspian tribe which no longer exists. Why not? Because things change. History is lost, even when kept meticulously for hundreds of years. Keep in mind I think you have to look for the whole in the parts that do match, and not a precise match of the whole. Anyway I'll put together some more comparisons for this one and will work on outlining the other pages as well.
Rats I just lost a long answer just before I was going to send it, but your questions helped me find some answers along the way that I won't forget. I'll just post the best example for now which is the Fra Mauro map, everything is kinda upside down and on its side, but there is the Caspian with all the rivers I mentioned, and a tiny Aral that only has the Syrdarya attached. 1457-9
^^^Amudarya & Uzboy ^^^^tiny Aral w/Syrdarya only, then the Ural
I'll prepare some more examples offline this time so I don't lose it again! ^^^^^^^ big blue river is the Volga, if that helps orient things, note the green loopy river to the side of the pic. Gorgan on the other side of pic.
(12-07-2016, 02:59 PM)Sam G wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It's easy to find comparisons between images in the VMS and virtually anything you want if you take things entirely out of context. In this case you've got a number of these pools of water in this section of the VMS and whatever they are supposed to represent they all seem to form a related class of objects, so if they are not all depictions of large bodies of water then probably none of them are. It seems pretty unlikely to me that all of the pools are intended to depict large bodies of water, and since the comparison with the Caspian Sea you've shown isn't all that precise, and since there are many bodies of water in the world with various shapes making it likely that at least one of them will be at least roughly similar to a pool in the VMS, probably the similarity you've noted here is simply a coincidence.
Hi Sam,
Actually I think this page was one of the last I figured out, and only because of where they fit into the whole did I finally recognize them, especially due to how they are situated on the page. The bodies of water I think are shown have the distinction of being two of the largest in the world (when not dry), and which are located right between Europe and Asia, which makes it more likely to be talked about or occur on a map than a lake that happens to have that exact shape. I actually got started from the idea of the seven seas from the seven "waves" in the Rosette with the T-O Map attached. You're right, nothing is a precise match, however, I think that's been done on purpose, both as a means of hiding information in plain sight and as a commentary on the fact that all maps are not precise copies of each other, there is evolution both in a forward and backward sense as we move through time, which also hides the fact that things actually change over time while that is happening, which again gets lost and written off as "mistakes" to be corrected with current data. One of the things Strabo says about the Caspian is that is is named after the Caspian tribe which no longer exists. Why not? Because things change. History is lost, even when kept meticulously for hundreds of years. Keep in mind I think you have to look for the whole in the parts that do match, and not a precise match of the whole. Anyway I'll put together some more comparisons for this one and will work on outlining the other pages as well.