Thread for all discussion about "genuine/meaningless/fake" etc

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@proto57
You also write: They do not extend to the MS because these insects did not feed on parchment.
Tell that to the worms, we also find them in Styrofoam. It's in their nature to seek out softer zones. Always between hard wood and bark.

Hi, Aga: I didn't write of the wormholes, "They do not extend to the MS because these insects did not feed on parchment." That is a quote from the Yale book on the Voynich. The entire quote is,

“There are wormholes on the very few first and last folios. They don’t extend into the MS because these insects did not feed on parchment. The holes cut through writing and drawing elements, showing that they appeared after the MS was written.”

I opined on this in my "Rebuttal to NoFake" page, "This demonstrates the frequent misuse of forgery evidence, being spun to instead imply genuine. This because a clue often used to determine the authenticity of a document is the “lining up” of wormholes between sheets. But here, wormholes don’t line up with anything. So they are both being used to imply genuine, with, “there are wormholes”, and “through writing and drawing elements”; but then the evidence they are not genuine, i.e., they don’t line up to any other, continued, holes, is explained away, with “these insects did not feed on parchment”. So these particular ones did just the perfect amount of feeding: They ate through JUST enough parchment to prove it is old, then stopped… proving the parchment is old again."

In short I agree with you about these worms, and that they are normally found having bored through many materials. But the Voynich it seems has worms with different behavior (being facetious) which did just the right amount of eating, then stopping, to "make the Voynich real".

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