For anyone slower than myself, here's the story.
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So it was Clovis. Does it say: "Anglia portat in armiß fine treß..."? Something about frogs. And I loose it after that.
Fortunately, there's this reference: "Top: arms with three toads. According to legend, this was the coat of arms of Clovis, king of the Franks, before his conversion to Christianity. He then replaced them with three irises. Bottom: French Moderne arms with three fleurs-de-lis adopted as the arms of France from 1376 to 1469. From Nicholas Upton's Treatise on Military Arts and Heraldry, 1450, British Library."
It's a reference on Pinterest. Can you believe it? The reference date is 1450 and the history of the armorial insignia is widely known at that time. Note that in the representation of the three frogs insignia, the field is argent.
So a frog is a frog and frogs in triplicate are a potential tie to French history and the king's religious conversion. The next question is whether or not that is some kind of idiosyncratic VMs dragon-salamander hidden in the crease. It does seem to be a trait of the VMs that information that seems to be more significant is also more difficult to tease out, but perhaps there is a point where that goes too far.
While a salamander would push the dates of VMs creation a century after the parchment dates, it does not affect other aspects of VMs investigation. I agree with Rene Z, that VMs Pisces is an important potential starting point. And two things that start there are pairing and heraldic insignia.
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So it was Clovis. Does it say: "Anglia portat in armiß fine treß..."? Something about frogs. And I loose it after that.
Fortunately, there's this reference: "Top: arms with three toads. According to legend, this was the coat of arms of Clovis, king of the Franks, before his conversion to Christianity. He then replaced them with three irises. Bottom: French Moderne arms with three fleurs-de-lis adopted as the arms of France from 1376 to 1469. From Nicholas Upton's Treatise on Military Arts and Heraldry, 1450, British Library."
It's a reference on Pinterest. Can you believe it? The reference date is 1450 and the history of the armorial insignia is widely known at that time. Note that in the representation of the three frogs insignia, the field is argent.
So a frog is a frog and frogs in triplicate are a potential tie to French history and the king's religious conversion. The next question is whether or not that is some kind of idiosyncratic VMs dragon-salamander hidden in the crease. It does seem to be a trait of the VMs that information that seems to be more significant is also more difficult to tease out, but perhaps there is a point where that goes too far.
While a salamander would push the dates of VMs creation a century after the parchment dates, it does not affect other aspects of VMs investigation. I agree with Rene Z, that VMs Pisces is an important potential starting point. And two things that start there are pairing and heraldic insignia.