27-05-2016, 05:16 PM
VViews, I did not mean to imply that you thought the MS text was just a dialect.
One of the points I meant to bring out is that looking for dialects will not really help.
The text properties of the Voynich MS are so different from those of Indo-European languages, that the method to find the solution will be the same for all of them.
I don't know if that makes my point more clear.
Finding the way from London to a particular street in Edinburgh is largely the same for all streets in Edinburgh.
Almost all words in the example you gave (mining language) were understandable, some mixture of Germanic and Romance. This is not really different from the 'usual' languages of Europe.
To extend on this, let's look at (modern) Mandarin Chinese.
This is based on syllables, and most words consist of two syllables. Some consist of one.
The most frequent syllable is pronounced 'de'. It means 'of', or creates a genetive case. It always follows another syllable, so could be said to appear at the end of a word. This is quite reminiscent of Voynichese dy which also appears at the end of words. Note that another very frequent syllable is equally pronounced 'de', and equally appears after other syllables, e.g. to create adverbs.
The second most frequent one is 'yi' which can be pronounced (english) 'ee' or 'yee'. This means 'one', or also the indefinitely article 'a'. This always appears at the start. This is of course reminiscent of Voynichese o- or qo- (ee or yee).
The next one is 'shi' with a falling tone, which is the verb 'to be'. Sounds like English 'sure' (kind of). shi with a rising tone is also frequent, and both can mean a variety of things. These could be Voynichese chol or chor .
It is surely a coincidence that l and r are the medieval symbols for 4 and 2, which are nowadays used in pinyin to indicate falling and rising tones.
Here, we see a language that behaves completely differently from (Indo-)European languages, but in many ways similar to Voyniches.
One of the points I meant to bring out is that looking for dialects will not really help.
The text properties of the Voynich MS are so different from those of Indo-European languages, that the method to find the solution will be the same for all of them.
I don't know if that makes my point more clear.
Finding the way from London to a particular street in Edinburgh is largely the same for all streets in Edinburgh.
Almost all words in the example you gave (mining language) were understandable, some mixture of Germanic and Romance. This is not really different from the 'usual' languages of Europe.
To extend on this, let's look at (modern) Mandarin Chinese.
This is based on syllables, and most words consist of two syllables. Some consist of one.
The most frequent syllable is pronounced 'de'. It means 'of', or creates a genetive case. It always follows another syllable, so could be said to appear at the end of a word. This is quite reminiscent of Voynichese dy which also appears at the end of words. Note that another very frequent syllable is equally pronounced 'de', and equally appears after other syllables, e.g. to create adverbs.
The second most frequent one is 'yi' which can be pronounced (english) 'ee' or 'yee'. This means 'one', or also the indefinitely article 'a'. This always appears at the start. This is of course reminiscent of Voynichese o- or qo- (ee or yee).
The next one is 'shi' with a falling tone, which is the verb 'to be'. Sounds like English 'sure' (kind of). shi with a rising tone is also frequent, and both can mean a variety of things. These could be Voynichese chol or chor .
It is surely a coincidence that l and r are the medieval symbols for 4 and 2, which are nowadays used in pinyin to indicate falling and rising tones.
Here, we see a language that behaves completely differently from (Indo-)European languages, but in many ways similar to Voyniches.
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