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Let's get back to the parchment.
ReneZ said:
One thing can be stated:
the probability that the parchment of the Voynich MS is after 1438 is 2.5%"
I have the feeling that we are still looking at information that is based on all four VMs samples taken together. What if there was only one sample and that was the most recent one? What would be the probability that this parchment is after 1438, something approximating 50%? So that if there actually were two separate batches of parchment production, the most recent date holds precedence for the earliest potential date of VMs completion.
Likewise with dating based of illustrations, such as clothing. I have proposed that VMs White Aries references events of the Fieschi popes c. 1250, but I never dated the VMs to that era, not even prior to C-14. Various investigators have identified the VMs critter of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. with the emblem from the Golden Fleece dated 1430 and subsequent. Oresme's cosmos is dated c. 1410 and subsequent. These things can be regenerated from the artist's memory and from tradition. And here again it's only the most recent date, whichever identification one feel has validity, that counts, and the VMs then comes afterwards, not the whole thing necessarily, just those last fiddly bits, perhaps.
So, if Oresme is valid (BNF Fr. 565), if the clothing is valid, if Melusine is valid (Harley 334), if the Golden Fleece is valid, then the date is after 1430 and there are historical connections to the Duchy of Burgundy. VMs as a finished creation comes after the last dated event.
Likewise with the production of the parchment, the recognition of the potential reality of a second and more recent date of parchment production is a clear indication that VMs chronology may not be as narrowly restricted as some might like it to be. The current data cannot be restricted to a single interpretation.
Rather than claiming a specific interpretation, different interpretations of the data open alternative possibilities.
Let's get back to the parchment.
ReneZ said:
One thing can be stated:
the probability that the parchment of the Voynich MS is after 1438 is 2.5%"
I have the feeling that we are still looking at information that is based on all four VMs samples taken together. What if there was only one sample and that was the most recent one? What would be the probability that this parchment is after 1438, something approximating 50%? So that if there actually were two separate batches of parchment production, the most recent date holds precedence for the earliest potential date of VMs completion.
Likewise with dating based of illustrations, such as clothing. I have proposed that VMs White Aries references events of the Fieschi popes c. 1250, but I never dated the VMs to that era, not even prior to C-14. Various investigators have identified the VMs critter of You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. with the emblem from the Golden Fleece dated 1430 and subsequent. Oresme's cosmos is dated c. 1410 and subsequent. These things can be regenerated from the artist's memory and from tradition. And here again it's only the most recent date, whichever identification one feel has validity, that counts, and the VMs then comes afterwards, not the whole thing necessarily, just those last fiddly bits, perhaps.
So, if Oresme is valid (BNF Fr. 565), if the clothing is valid, if Melusine is valid (Harley 334), if the Golden Fleece is valid, then the date is after 1430 and there are historical connections to the Duchy of Burgundy. VMs as a finished creation comes after the last dated event.
Likewise with the production of the parchment, the recognition of the potential reality of a second and more recent date of parchment production is a clear indication that VMs chronology may not be as narrowly restricted as some might like it to be. The current data cannot be restricted to a single interpretation.
Rather than claiming a specific interpretation, different interpretations of the data open alternative possibilities.