17-07-2020, 05:24 PM
Yes it is f95v2 now but it is likely misfolded, so You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. might just be more correct, and at least it works to get to the voyager (ie the other doesn't become a link)
Like i said i agree they appear as possibly serrated but you are filling in things that aren't there, regardless, and once filled in, it more matches my serration than yours, which to me is doubly so. How do you explain the lack of deeper serrations as per reality for the baneberry, plus sometimes the bigger leaves even seem to have lobes? That the sloppy paint job hides them? Perhaps you are right and there are no hairs, but there certainly seem to be a lot of s shapes and very little indication that they mean serration and not hairs.
Insofar as nettle not having odd pinnate leaves, they have been characterized as such before, but only near the bottom of mature plants, as drawn, ie below any of the florescences, not at the top nor between the seed racemes. See the german rendition in post 3 comparing a mature plant to a younger one, the latter of which i agree has less resemblance to the plant as drawn, but which does resemble the pinnate leaf bunches if you took them off the stem, ie the older leaves on their own resemble young plants, or the tips of older ones, which fills in the rest of the visualization for me. I agree completely that my version requires a different way of seeing than yours.
Here is another which shows this feature of what looks like odd pinnate leaves in a mature plant, it doesn't portray the racemes in the way i see as important though.
![[Image: stinging-nettle-urtica-dioica-and-hemp-n...HHM6MX.jpg]](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HHM6MX/stinging-nettle-urtica-dioica-and-hemp-nettle-galeopsis-speciosa-handcoloured-HHM6MX.jpg)
And yes, one baneberry raceme matches kind of ok visually, if you forget the extra leaf serrations and the fact that the leaves don't often match until you insert one from lower down. If you can do that to make it match, then so can i with mine. But show me one that has four racemes all coming from the same point? And there is still the non matching roots...
Like i said i agree they appear as possibly serrated but you are filling in things that aren't there, regardless, and once filled in, it more matches my serration than yours, which to me is doubly so. How do you explain the lack of deeper serrations as per reality for the baneberry, plus sometimes the bigger leaves even seem to have lobes? That the sloppy paint job hides them? Perhaps you are right and there are no hairs, but there certainly seem to be a lot of s shapes and very little indication that they mean serration and not hairs.
Insofar as nettle not having odd pinnate leaves, they have been characterized as such before, but only near the bottom of mature plants, as drawn, ie below any of the florescences, not at the top nor between the seed racemes. See the german rendition in post 3 comparing a mature plant to a younger one, the latter of which i agree has less resemblance to the plant as drawn, but which does resemble the pinnate leaf bunches if you took them off the stem, ie the older leaves on their own resemble young plants, or the tips of older ones, which fills in the rest of the visualization for me. I agree completely that my version requires a different way of seeing than yours.
Here is another which shows this feature of what looks like odd pinnate leaves in a mature plant, it doesn't portray the racemes in the way i see as important though.
And yes, one baneberry raceme matches kind of ok visually, if you forget the extra leaf serrations and the fact that the leaves don't often match until you insert one from lower down. If you can do that to make it match, then so can i with mine. But show me one that has four racemes all coming from the same point? And there is still the non matching roots...