28-04-2016, 08:07 PM
MarcoP,
First of all, you really are a master of images. Particularly interesting are the medieval dome interiors. They all have that perfectly symmetrical, spider web structure. And the Greek image is a nice one as well. But what is this discussion about? No one questions the existence of canopies. It's a question of whether the three types of things that are designated by the term 'canopy' are (or are not) interchangeable. And as I see it, despite certain similarities, they are clearly not the same thing. But there is a linguistic history of conflation. Did the ancient Greeks, or the medieval Italians for that matter, also use the same term for all three types of things?
As to the Vms image in this latest comparison, I see that as a representation of some sort of object, something that might be held in the hands rather than any sort of covering, dome or canopy. But I really have no idea what that VMs object is. Half of a pine cone???
And , if I may say, that is a compelling reason for dealing with knowns, instead of unknowns. Heraldry defines the nebuly line. And that pattern is used in various parts of the VMs. It's not too difficult to draw a plain nebuly line. Many artists have incorporated elaborate nebuly lines in their cloud bands. The VMs artist and Winand von Steeg are the only two known sources to provide examples of this jagged nebuly line and they both use a very similar technique. If there is a place where further comparison would be of interest, this is it, though I do realize that relevant data is quite difficult to find.
First of all, you really are a master of images. Particularly interesting are the medieval dome interiors. They all have that perfectly symmetrical, spider web structure. And the Greek image is a nice one as well. But what is this discussion about? No one questions the existence of canopies. It's a question of whether the three types of things that are designated by the term 'canopy' are (or are not) interchangeable. And as I see it, despite certain similarities, they are clearly not the same thing. But there is a linguistic history of conflation. Did the ancient Greeks, or the medieval Italians for that matter, also use the same term for all three types of things?
As to the Vms image in this latest comparison, I see that as a representation of some sort of object, something that might be held in the hands rather than any sort of covering, dome or canopy. But I really have no idea what that VMs object is. Half of a pine cone???
And , if I may say, that is a compelling reason for dealing with knowns, instead of unknowns. Heraldry defines the nebuly line. And that pattern is used in various parts of the VMs. It's not too difficult to draw a plain nebuly line. Many artists have incorporated elaborate nebuly lines in their cloud bands. The VMs artist and Winand von Steeg are the only two known sources to provide examples of this jagged nebuly line and they both use a very similar technique. If there is a place where further comparison would be of interest, this is it, though I do realize that relevant data is quite difficult to find.