26-04-2016, 06:42 PM
Hi MarcoP,
As you say, a lot of differences. And a few similarities, which I see as minimal.
A canopy above, is clearly there in the VMs. But in the Vatican example, there is the starry dome, the rainbow and God on his throne , as I interpret the illustration. Where is the canopy? You can't just turn God and the heavenly cosmos into a canopy, can you? Or vice versa?
In the middle... etc. Definitely true of the Vatican example. But what is there in the part above the nebuly line in the VMs illustration? The VMs nebuly line is not a dividing line like the Vatican illustration shows.
And precipitation below. The VMs appears to strongly indicate the flow of some kind of fluid. While in the Vatican example, there are vertical lines, some circles and some plain nebuly lines at the base of the rainbow on either side. Much of this is painted brown, potentially representing the earth in the background. It doesn't look like the generation of precipitation is a significant aspect of the Vatican illustration.
As far as the VMs "umbrellas", I have not suggested any explanation. I don't have one. I am mystified. Certainly the scale-like pattern would be well-known from various sources including a variety of conifers. These representations may have a significance that I don't know. Perhaps.
What I do like a lot is the similarity between the elaborated nebuly line in the Vatican illustration you posted and the elaborated nebuly line in the VMs Central Rosette. The details in the technique are quite a good match and the set to which that technique extends consists of only these two examples, so far.
As you say, a lot of differences. And a few similarities, which I see as minimal.
A canopy above, is clearly there in the VMs. But in the Vatican example, there is the starry dome, the rainbow and God on his throne , as I interpret the illustration. Where is the canopy? You can't just turn God and the heavenly cosmos into a canopy, can you? Or vice versa?
In the middle... etc. Definitely true of the Vatican example. But what is there in the part above the nebuly line in the VMs illustration? The VMs nebuly line is not a dividing line like the Vatican illustration shows.
And precipitation below. The VMs appears to strongly indicate the flow of some kind of fluid. While in the Vatican example, there are vertical lines, some circles and some plain nebuly lines at the base of the rainbow on either side. Much of this is painted brown, potentially representing the earth in the background. It doesn't look like the generation of precipitation is a significant aspect of the Vatican illustration.
As far as the VMs "umbrellas", I have not suggested any explanation. I don't have one. I am mystified. Certainly the scale-like pattern would be well-known from various sources including a variety of conifers. These representations may have a significance that I don't know. Perhaps.
What I do like a lot is the similarity between the elaborated nebuly line in the Vatican illustration you posted and the elaborated nebuly line in the VMs Central Rosette. The details in the technique are quite a good match and the set to which that technique extends consists of only these two examples, so far.