02-04-2020, 04:08 PM
(This post was last modified: 02-04-2020, 04:13 PM by Mark Knowles.)
(01-04-2020, 06:04 AM)MarcoP wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.
We drifted away from discussing Matching “pharma” / “small plants” labels in context. I suggest moving posts from #26 onwards to a new Mark Knowles' theories thread.
My work is not connected to Timm and Schinner, though I think there work is of interest. Steganography is a much less specific term than I am using. I disagree with JKP that the concept of homophoned are not compatible with the structure of Voynichese, I think they are compatible. The use of the term diplomatic ciphers is to be more specific rather than to blur the point.
Some people have written that the Voynich cannot be a cipher. I certainly haven't suggested everything believes that; Nick Pelling for one believes, from what I understand, that the Voynich is written in cipher. It would take time and not make a lot of sense to list all researchers who have said that Voynichese cannot be a cipher, though it appears to be an opinion widely stated. From what you have said it seems that you acknowledge that Voynichese could be a cipher. Well in fact when you say "options are only excluded by delusional solvers" then that would seem to imply to me that there are plenty delusional solvers. In fact to quote Gerard Cheshire in a recent email to me "Hi Mark, Yes, you may well be right about it being a cipher.", so I am not sure your statement even applies to him.
You seem to believe that Voynichese cannot be related to diplomatic ciphers of the period as you seem to be saying that the Voynichese cannot have features connected to or related to that of homophones. Is this a correct assessment of your position?
I mentioned diplomatic ciphers as a way to approach and explain the phenomena that you were discussing regarding pharma labels. I have spent a lot of time looking at these labels and various specific explanations were not considered in this thread, such as certain labels being meaningless null words and certain plant names being able to be spelled completely differently as we see with homophones.