Cannons versus Pipes
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It could be the Nile delta, it could be the 4 rivers running out of Eden, it could be the Tuscan delta, the Po River delta, even the Normandy coast delta.

River deltas are common and many people have suggested the lower-left could be rivers (it has always looked like a river delta to me, but I try to remind myself that it might also be flows of something else, like lava, it doesn't necessarily have to be water).


The branches of the Nile are always changing and were not necessarily the same in number or size in the Middle Ages as they are now (which is also true of most deltas). As the silt is washed down from the river, it builds up and can quite dramatically change over the centuries.


Just based on how the VMS illustrator draws things, I think it is much more likely that the lower-left rotum represents a delta, rather than a cluster of pipes representing a delta. I do think the pipes could represent an aqueduct however (I've posted examples of aqueduct pipes on another thread), and quite a few other things (portable ink tubes were also cylinder shaped in those days, as was the pouch for the quill, so were siting tubes, which look a bit like telescopes, but lack the lens, but I like the idea of organ pipes as they were long and similar in shape to the VMS pipes and were grouped in regular ways and the VMS grouping has a larger one in the center).

Paris had a lot of chimneys in the middle ages (as did most large cities), forests of chimneys. I sometimes wondered if the VMS "pipes" were inspired by chimney pipes.

I also posted an illustration of steam vents quite a while ago. They were inserted into the ground in thermally active areas to let out steam and they were just basically pipes.


I really don't think cannons are likely. The VMS seems to lean away from warfare rather than toward it.

Horns maybe (the celestial-message kind). Note that some of them are coming out of a cloudband.
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Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 03:55 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 04:09 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by RobGea - 05-10-2019, 04:14 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by ReneZ - 05-10-2019, 04:29 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by ReneZ - 05-10-2019, 04:39 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 04:46 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by RobGea - 05-10-2019, 04:42 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 04:52 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 05-10-2019, 05:05 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 05:10 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 05-10-2019, 05:32 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Mark Knowles - 05-10-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 05-10-2019, 06:13 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by bi3mw - 05-10-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Monica Yokubinas - 05-10-2019, 06:45 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by pjburkshire - 08-05-2024, 04:51 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by nablator - 08-05-2024, 05:29 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Monica Yokubinas - 06-10-2019, 01:02 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 06-10-2019, 04:11 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Stephen Carlson - 06-10-2019, 09:23 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by RenegadeHealer - 06-10-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Monica Yokubinas - 06-10-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by bi3mw - 06-10-2019, 01:16 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 06-10-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by bi3mw - 06-10-2019, 01:49 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Aga Tentakulus - 06-10-2019, 02:59 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 06-10-2019, 03:23 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 06-10-2019, 03:37 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Wladimir D - 06-10-2019, 04:43 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by bi3mw - 06-10-2019, 05:25 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 07-10-2019, 04:05 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Monica Yokubinas - 07-10-2019, 01:07 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by RenegadeHealer - 08-10-2019, 02:31 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Monica Yokubinas - 08-10-2019, 04:54 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Davidsch - 08-10-2019, 11:12 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by bi3mw - 08-10-2019, 11:53 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 08-10-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 10-10-2019, 06:08 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 10-10-2019, 07:10 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 10-10-2019, 07:22 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 10-10-2019, 07:53 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 10-10-2019, 08:58 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by -JKP- - 10-10-2019, 09:22 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by R. Sale - 08-05-2024, 05:55 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Stefan Wirtz_2 - 14-07-2025, 11:45 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by pjburkshire - 09-05-2024, 08:23 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Ruby Novacna - 10-05-2024, 06:44 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 11-05-2024, 09:12 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Barbrey - 05-08-2024, 01:37 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 12-05-2024, 12:25 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by ReneZ - 12-05-2024, 06:35 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Ruby Novacna - 12-05-2024, 09:30 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by R. Sale - 12-05-2024, 06:57 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Barbrey - 09-10-2024, 12:22 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by R. Sale - 09-10-2024, 07:57 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Barbrey - 14-10-2025, 08:50 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by R. Sale - 14-10-2025, 09:44 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Barbrey - 14-10-2025, 10:17 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 29-01-2026, 03:48 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Jorge_Stolfi - 29-01-2026, 04:19 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 30-01-2026, 12:06 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by ReneZ - 30-01-2026, 12:20 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 30-01-2026, 03:46 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 30-01-2026, 10:37 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Jorge_Stolfi - 30-01-2026, 10:47 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by DG97EEB - 30-01-2026, 07:37 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by R. Sale - 30-01-2026, 08:14 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by DG97EEB - 30-01-2026, 08:37 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by DG97EEB - 30-01-2026, 10:24 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 31-01-2026, 08:41 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 31-01-2026, 09:30 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by DG97EEB - 01-02-2026, 06:58 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by DG97EEB - 01-02-2026, 10:59 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Aga Tentakulus - 31-01-2026, 09:56 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Bernd - 31-01-2026, 10:07 PM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by Koen G - 01-02-2026, 10:39 AM
RE: Cannons versus Pipes - by obelus - 01-02-2026, 02:27 AM

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