Opinions are opinions, they are for discussion.
1.)
Linda, I can go along with your idea of Nymphoides indica. It would fulfill my transcription and the possible translation as Nymphaea alba would do and the picture shows us a white flower with five petals like it is the case with Nymphoides indica.
2.)
We seem to have an agreement with "viola tricolor", but we do not have the VMS name of the plant.
But if my transcription is right, we could read "lohorr oborroey". In Basque "lo" means "sleep", "hura" means "the" and "borro" means "ram" (spanish "burro" means "donkey"). The main Basque Goddess Mari is attributed with a snake and a ram.
3.)
The idea, that it takes out the burn of insect bites, and the dragon stands for this, I find really nice. I could imagine this very well. @JKP So we also agree on "plantain"?
4.)
We definitly did not agree with this plant and I see your arguments. I´ve done some research today, and maybe I have found another good candidate for this plant.
From the transcription, if it is right, we know, that it must be a fragant plant. The first word on the page (maybe the name) is "beriony". So it could also be Salvia verbenaca.
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To your suggestions. The leafs of Chenopodium and Alliaria are to acute, but we should look forward to find Chenopodium on the other VMS herbal pages. It is very likely that we found it anywhere else, because it is an important plant to the Zuni people, which I believe, I have found in my translation. The leafs of Kalanchoe are very similar, but the flowers absolutely aren´t equal to the VMS plant in my opinion. Chiastophyllum has yellow flower, the VMS flowers are blue / violet. The Sedum flower has a totally different shape. The leafs of Umbilicus looks like trumpets, the VMS plant leafs didn´t do that.
5.)
The drawing of the borage is really very bad in comparison with the other plants in the VMS. But there are too many hints to borage, I would think. @Linda, the Aquilegia has leafs in a shape like a duck´s feet. The leafs of the VMS plant do have non- separated leafs. Yes, the drawing seems to be very bad, but the transcription seems to be also very clear. If it is right, it can only be borage.
6.)
You did not said anything about my idea of folio 3r and that it could be a common polypody there.
1.)
Linda, I can go along with your idea of Nymphoides indica. It would fulfill my transcription and the possible translation as Nymphaea alba would do and the picture shows us a white flower with five petals like it is the case with Nymphoides indica.
2.)
We seem to have an agreement with "viola tricolor", but we do not have the VMS name of the plant.
But if my transcription is right, we could read "lohorr oborroey". In Basque "lo" means "sleep", "hura" means "the" and "borro" means "ram" (spanish "burro" means "donkey"). The main Basque Goddess Mari is attributed with a snake and a ram.
3.)
The idea, that it takes out the burn of insect bites, and the dragon stands for this, I find really nice. I could imagine this very well. @JKP So we also agree on "plantain"?
4.)
We definitly did not agree with this plant and I see your arguments. I´ve done some research today, and maybe I have found another good candidate for this plant.
From the transcription, if it is right, we know, that it must be a fragant plant. The first word on the page (maybe the name) is "beriony". So it could also be Salvia verbenaca.
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To your suggestions. The leafs of Chenopodium and Alliaria are to acute, but we should look forward to find Chenopodium on the other VMS herbal pages. It is very likely that we found it anywhere else, because it is an important plant to the Zuni people, which I believe, I have found in my translation. The leafs of Kalanchoe are very similar, but the flowers absolutely aren´t equal to the VMS plant in my opinion. Chiastophyllum has yellow flower, the VMS flowers are blue / violet. The Sedum flower has a totally different shape. The leafs of Umbilicus looks like trumpets, the VMS plant leafs didn´t do that.
5.)
The drawing of the borage is really very bad in comparison with the other plants in the VMS. But there are too many hints to borage, I would think. @Linda, the Aquilegia has leafs in a shape like a duck´s feet. The leafs of the VMS plant do have non- separated leafs. Yes, the drawing seems to be very bad, but the transcription seems to be also very clear. If it is right, it can only be borage.
6.)
You did not said anything about my idea of folio 3r and that it could be a common polypody there.