03-06-2019, 05:00 AM
(02-06-2019, 10:35 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I think it is pretty unlikely that John Dee was a forger.
He was an extremely pious man, so honest that he was constantly taken advantage of by other people. He simply couldn't "see" deceit because it wasn't on his radar. He entrusted his entire beloved library to a relative while he traveled to the continent and it was immediately plundered, something Dee probably didn't expect to happen.
He naively believed all of Kelley's "channeling" were messages from God (or from God's angels) which is why he was taken in by him for so long.
Edward Kelley, on the other hand, was an opportunistic rogue and probably capable of anything, if he could benefit in some way. Two intelligent men with VERY different personalities and ethical stances. I have no doubt that Kelley would forge if he thought he could get away with it.
For most of world history, it is perfectly OK to believe a lot of what you read. An exception to the rule occurs in the late 16th and early 17th centuries when a secret society found motive to create false narratives.
In other words, in the real world, Michel Nostradamus never wrote a single prophecy, William Shakespeare never wrote a single play (assuming he could write at all), and John Dee didn't speak with angels nor was he conned into allowing his wife to sleep with someone called Kelley.
These false narratives were created to protect the identity of members of that secret society as well as to maintain the secrecy of their projects, the most important of which was the publication of the VMS prophecies. It seems they believed that the long-term survival of those prophecies would ultimately result in a resounding military victory of Protestants over Catholics and thus the prophecies had to be protected at all costs. Possibly for the same reason, the VMS was encrypted.
I don't expect you to believe any of this so it seems best to await a fresh decoding of the VMS (whereupon what I said may make more sense to you) before continuing this discussion. As for Dee, I'm pretty sure he was highly educated and quite sane, and that he would have done whatever was required of him for the benefit of his queen and country.

