[Article] A possible generating algorithm of the Voynich manuscript
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(31-05-2019, 10:50 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.This is not what I meant. The network plots show the end result (or in fact the starting point), but I am interested in the process.

We don't know if the text of the Voynich MS was based on some source text or is meaningless, but we know for sure that it was 'generated' some 600 years ago. This applies either way. It may have been generated using some random process or it may have been generated by manipulating a text.

Your various papers suggest that we will learn what was the process, but while this is described vaguely (taking recent previous words, and modifying them), the evidence that this happened is not there.
The network graph does not show the process.

Sorry, but I didn't know what you mean.

You ask about the introduction of new words? I explain some examples for the introduction of new words. Your response is "There is nothing too concrete on how new words are introduced." What is more concrete than examples?

You ask about key statistics with edit distance 1. I give you such key statistics for the whole VMS. Your response is "This is not what I meant."

What do you mean with process, if you can't accept instructions to generate the text as an answer? Do you ask about the deconstruction of some text to illustrate what the writer was thinking during writing? Do you mean that there must be some planing behind it? Do you mean something else?

(31-05-2019, 10:50 AM)ReneZ wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.... The network plots show the end result (or in fact the starting point) ...

The network plots did not show the starting point. It is not necessary to plan a network of similar words if you want to write only similar words anyway. The VMs didn't contain something else than similar tokens. This is the reason that if we look at the three most frequent words on each page, for more than half of the pages two of three will differ in only one detail. This fact alone illustrates that the occurrence of similar tokens is typical for the whole VMS. 

It simply doesn't matter if you look on a single page, a bifolio, a quire in Currier A or B, or the whole VMS. The result is always the same. In fact, subnets can be constructed for You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view., but, of course, they are more instructive for pages containing lots of text. For instance the core network for page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. contains 189 out of 277 words (=68.2 %). They represent 402 token out of 491 tokens (=81.8 %). 
The core network for page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. contains 239 out of 354 words (=67.5 %). They represent 485 token out of 613 tokens (=79.1 %).
The core network for page You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. contains 172 out of 267 words (=66.9 %). They represent 305 token out of 394 tokens (=77.4 %).
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RE: A possible generating algorithm of the Voynich manuscript - by Torsten - 02-06-2019, 04:32 PM

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