The top left hand loop of the gallows characters is a 4. Who disagrees?

[Mark Knowles]

JKP: I am not focusing on how it looks in modern scripts. I am focusing on how it looks independent of any scripts. The reason for using this modern script that I am using now is that it is the default and also is that in the context of the "4" shape and "8" it seems sufficiently consistent. If one wants to get really specific it essentially is about identifying if a shape is a right angled triangle (i.e. the triangle from the "4" shape.) It doesn't matter which script the triangle is in.

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I am trying to establish in this thread what the shape looks like, not whether there are characters corresponding to other letters in other manuscripts that resemble that character.

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What does a right angled triangle look like? That is visually independent of any manuscript.