The top left hand loop of the gallows characters is a 4. Who disagrees?

[Mark Knowles]

Mark, most definitely YOU are the one missing the point.
The d shape in the Voynich MS looks quite like how the characters d and s are written in many medieval manuscripts.
That is: visually.

Just look at You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. of the MS for examples.

Rene, there is no need for block capitals. Yes, but that is not relevant. I am trying to establish in this thread what the shape looks like, not whether there are characters corresponding to other letters in other manuscripts that resemble that character. Whether the letters d and s are drawn like that is really outside of the area I am focusing on, so not relevant. I am focusing on how the shapes look visually independent of where else we see the shape.

So, with all due respect again you did miss my point.