The top left hand loop of the gallows characters is a 4. Who disagrees?

[Mark Knowles]

JKP: You are replying to my thread not the other way around, I am answering your points. If you don't disagree with the premiss of my question then there is nothing more for you to say or to have said long ago. And then the onus is on me to address any other people's objections if you don't object.

I am sorry, but you engage me not I you, but you often seem to act as if I have engaged you.