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(28-03-2016, 03:57 PM)Anton wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view....
Thx for the link. As to the "fading word", my best guess for the first letter is "v", because the alternative "p" requires a vertical below the baseline which I failed to trace. The second one I think to be an "u". The third and the fourth are both "l". Thus we have something beginning with "vull", which, as You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. suggests, in German might stand for "Voll" (i.e. ""full), or, maybe "vul" (rotten, stinky, compare with English "foul").

Is it possible that there is a valid German reading of the tentative "lucz" with a ligature? Were ligatures used in German-tongue documents, and for what purpose?

German documents were written with almost as many scribal abbreviations as Latin. Not quite as many, but most were adopted by one scribe or another (Spanish and French adopted them also).

The ones that were particularly prevalent in German documents were the Latin abbreviations for con-/cum- -rum/-orem -um/-us/-os re/er/ir con, per and pro. These, by the way, happen to match the characters in the VMS that were used for those abbreviations, as if the person who created the text wanted it to superficially look like they were Latin abbreviations (or just borrowed the most common shapes for his own purposes).
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f17r - by Koen G - 26-03-2016, 10:30 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 26-03-2016, 11:25 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 27-03-2016, 05:09 AM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 26-03-2016, 11:45 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 12:11 AM
RE: f17r - by EllieV - 27-03-2016, 01:05 AM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 27-03-2016, 05:22 AM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 27-03-2016, 10:56 AM
RE: f17r - by EllieV - 27-03-2016, 05:21 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 27-03-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: f17r - by ReneZ - 27-03-2016, 11:42 AM
RE: f17r - by Diane - 27-03-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 03:03 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 27-03-2016, 04:52 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 05:01 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 27-03-2016, 10:24 PM
RE: f17r - by david - 27-03-2016, 06:04 PM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 27-03-2016, 06:31 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 07:20 PM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 27-03-2016, 07:44 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 27-03-2016, 07:22 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 27-03-2016, 09:27 PM
RE: f17r - by davidjackson - 27-03-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 09:11 PM
RE: f17r - by davidjackson - 27-03-2016, 09:30 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: f17r - by davidjackson - 27-03-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 27-03-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 27-03-2016, 09:51 PM
RE: f17r - by davidjackson - 28-03-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 28-03-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 28-03-2016, 03:57 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 28-03-2016, 10:31 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 28-03-2016, 05:07 PM
RE: f17r - by Davidsch - 28-03-2016, 10:28 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 28-03-2016, 10:31 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 29-03-2016, 02:10 AM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 28-03-2016, 10:37 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 29-03-2016, 12:04 PM
RE: f17r - by Davidsch - 29-03-2016, 02:24 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 29-03-2016, 03:25 PM
RE: f17r - by Davidsch - 30-03-2016, 01:07 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 30-03-2016, 06:25 PM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 06-09-2016, 11:11 PM
RE: f17r - by julian - 30-09-2016, 02:05 AM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 30-09-2016, 04:24 AM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 30-09-2016, 04:47 PM
RE: f17r - by julian - 01-10-2016, 12:50 AM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 01-10-2016, 01:41 AM
RE: f17r - by ThomasCoon - 01-10-2016, 02:30 AM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 24-08-2017, 09:31 PM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 25-08-2017, 01:11 AM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 25-08-2017, 01:41 AM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 24-08-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 24-08-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 24-08-2017, 10:22 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 24-08-2017, 10:02 PM
RE: f17r - by Helmut Winkler - 25-08-2017, 08:43 AM
RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 25-08-2017, 12:58 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 25-08-2017, 01:36 PM
RE: f17r - by Helmut Winkler - 25-08-2017, 05:07 PM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 25-08-2017, 07:14 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 25-08-2017, 08:23 PM
RE: f17r - by Paris - 28-08-2017, 01:24 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 28-08-2017, 02:51 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 28-08-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: f17r - by Paris - 17-10-2017, 03:05 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 12-09-2018, 02:30 PM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 12-09-2018, 08:34 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 12-09-2018, 03:21 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 12-09-2018, 09:35 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 12-09-2018, 09:58 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 12-09-2018, 10:22 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 12-09-2018, 10:35 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 13-09-2018, 04:52 PM
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RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 13-09-2018, 11:02 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 13-09-2018, 06:12 PM
RE: f17r - by Anton - 13-09-2018, 09:27 PM
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RE: f17r - by Koen G - 14-09-2018, 03:35 AM
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RE: f17r - by Anton - 14-09-2018, 11:59 PM
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RE: f17r - by MarcoP - 15-09-2018, 08:36 PM
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RE: f17r - by Anton - 15-09-2018, 11:57 PM
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RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 18-09-2018, 12:29 AM
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RE: f17r - by Anton - 16-09-2018, 05:42 PM
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RE: f17r - by bi3mw - 16-09-2018, 06:35 PM
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RE: f17r - by Koen G - 17-09-2018, 05:18 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 18-09-2018, 12:44 AM
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RE: f17r - by Diane - 05-10-2018, 05:26 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 05-10-2018, 07:20 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 06-10-2018, 12:35 AM
RE: f17r - by Diane - 10-10-2018, 12:52 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 10-10-2018, 02:52 PM
RE: f17r - by Paris - 10-10-2018, 07:01 PM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 10-10-2018, 07:39 PM
RE: f17r - by ReneZ - 10-10-2018, 07:32 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 10-10-2018, 07:47 PM
RE: f17r - by nickpelling - 16-10-2018, 07:01 PM
RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 25-11-2018, 12:14 AM
RE: f17r - by Koen G - 25-11-2018, 12:38 AM
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RE: f17r - by -JKP- - 25-11-2018, 09:15 PM
RE: f17r - by ReneZ - 01-12-2018, 10:33 AM
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RE: f17r - by Aga Tentakulus - 07-05-2021, 12:02 AM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 07-05-2021, 08:33 AM
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RE: f17r - by Anton - 07-05-2021, 10:10 PM
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RE: f17r - by Anton - 07-05-2021, 10:44 PM
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RE: f17r - by Searcher - 01-08-2025, 12:58 PM
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RE: f17r - by Aga Tentakulus - 02-08-2025, 05:52 PM
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RE: f17r - by Koen G - 02-08-2025, 09:54 PM
RE: f17r - by Aga Tentakulus - 02-08-2025, 10:18 PM
RE: f17r - by Searcher - 02-08-2025, 10:31 PM
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