13-05-2019, 11:24 PM
(This post was last modified: 14-05-2019, 11:55 AM by Morten St. George.
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(13-05-2019, 08:47 PM)Linda wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.So many things here...seem wrong.
the numerology is interesting, dont know enough about it to comment against it but i have my doubts
Baissant is evidently the present participle of old French baisser. Other translations of this quatrain usually have the priest bowing down, although i could see other translations making more sense, like declining. i also dont think tire means shot in this context. If it did, wouldnt falling be enough? Why look for intestinal divination to be involved?
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So it seems you wanted entraiils to be involved, i can see no other reason for your round about usage of a word in another quattrain instead of the word used. I guess it wasnt enough to fit with the events you wanted to align to the prophesy.
Because they spell it Tunes in one quatrain, which puts it undeniably in northern Africa, the other (more usual, and completely current) spelling means it is a poetic contraction indicating the US? I thought you might pull George Washington getting sheep from Tunis into the explanation...too bad.
In terms of your prophesies, James Brady is like the stump? But it was the pope who got shot, why would they then travel backward in time and start talking about Brady? How does that make any sense in terms of the rosette stumps you identified, full of Cathar souls? How does the pope getting shot or the prince getting married figure into the stumps at all? Especially if Brady is the one like the stump? Not to mention living in Tunis.
Linda, I posted that prophecy only as a "curiosity" and nothing more. My logic is that if I saw it as curiosity, maybe medieval people also saw in that way. In other words, I was suggesting a possible motive for employing encryption in the VMS.
By referring to it as a "curiosity", I was not ruling out the possibility of other translations and other interpretations. Indeed, there's been quite a bit of variety on that across the preceding four centuries.
Note that there's another "tiré" in quatrain V-2 and here even the charlatans usually translate it as "shoot", e.g., "where the other will shoot him in the forehead through his armour." In X-56, it seems a little awkward to shoot a "declining" (the translation of "baissant" you mention).
In regard to the drawings on the Rosettes Page, I am suggesting that what you think is a volcano could actually be a depiction of all of the following: a stump ("souche"), souls in limbo ("mort vif"), reincarnation ("respire"), a mouth ("bouche"), and the expulsion of blood ("flux de sang sortira").
More so than today, the medieval mentality was heavily absorbed into religion and creation themes. I've seen scholars remark that there was a surprising lack of religious drawings in the VMS. My response is that it would be virtually impossible for medieval people not to have religion on their mind (only here the religion is not Roman Catholicism which is what we normally see in medieval manuscript). I'm pretty sure the Rosettes Page is a grandiose depiction of their view of the afterlife.

