13-05-2019, 09:26 PM
(13-05-2019, 08:32 PM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.I actually have Silene vulgaris (Silene inflata) as an alternate ID for this plant but I never blogged about it because the leaves are completely wrong and the capsule is the wrong shape, and the number of lobes (which are also carefully drawn) is wrong.
Silene leaves are in pairs, up the stem. The VMS illustrator gave quite a bit of care and attention to leaf shapes and leaf arrangements (and even to leaf margins). So this kind of leaf (Silene) doesn't seem to match well:
Agreed, but what i was saying was that the leaves look like they do once removed from the plant. It is the wrong time of year or i would tear some off my local vulgaris and show a pic, the clasping bottoms of the leaf tear off with a bit of stem attached in the middles and the resulting pieces look like three lobed leaves.
The drawing does show them opposite, just removed and grouped, which is what gets done with them. In some cases they could be attached to each other as shown, if the stem pieces extend from one level to the next.
Monica also showed a pic with little protrusions, this is another possibility. Both of us have said we don't know which species of Silene but have both given examples of species with longer seed pods than vulgaris, i just know that species better than others, as i eat it myself, it grows in my garden and in the forests around me.
I did not see leaves like the drawing on the waterlillies, or poppies either, although i saw similar clasping leaves, although i think they are alternates...did i miss something? In the absense of better matching leaves i still allow Silene in my list of possibilities. I have added the waterlillies though.


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