[split] Diplomatic ciphers
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I've posted this before on Nick's blog, but the diplomatic ciphers have HUGE character sets because they include both one-to-many, many-to-one, and many null characters (plus a glossary of characters for commonly used names like that of the pope or the current emperor).

A single cipher sometimes has more than 200 glyphs and each cipher is given a new set, resulting in thousands of different glyphs.


In contrast, Voynichese has a very limited glyph set, even compared to some natural-language alphabets.

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The diplomatic ciphers are extremely varied in where a glyph can occur in a word, partly due to the one-to-many/many-to-one structure and partly because it's a substitution cipher.

In contrast, Voynichese glyphs have very constrained positions within tokens.



These are two very significant differences.


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[split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 06-04-2019, 07:54 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Koen G - 08-04-2019, 09:46 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 08-04-2019, 09:48 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 02:59 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 01:02 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Anton - 09-04-2019, 01:04 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 01:47 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 02:09 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Anton - 09-04-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 03:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 04:35 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 04:59 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 05:24 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 05:35 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 05:43 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 05:44 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 05:48 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 05:53 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 06:02 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 06:15 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 06:26 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 06:31 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 09-04-2019, 06:32 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 06:50 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 07:04 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 07:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by MarcoP - 09-04-2019, 08:19 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by ReneZ - 09-04-2019, 08:40 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 08:57 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 09-04-2019, 09:12 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 10-04-2019, 02:16 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 10-04-2019, 03:13 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 03:31 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 03:37 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 12:05 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 10-04-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 12:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 12:37 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by MarcoP - 11-04-2019, 07:08 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 10-04-2019, 01:19 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 10-04-2019, 06:03 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 02:17 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Anton - 10-04-2019, 06:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 10:28 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 12:48 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 12:49 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 12:56 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:02 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:09 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:13 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 01:25 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:28 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Mark Knowles - 11-04-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by -JKP- - 11-04-2019, 01:49 PM
RE: [split] Diplomatic ciphers - by Koen G - 11-04-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: Statement: IF Voynichese does not represent natural language... - by -JKP- - 07-04-2019, 06:30 PM

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