31-03-2019, 07:24 PM
[quote="Morten St. George" pid='25911' dateline='1553892765']
The flower on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has a large, round, flat head which looks like it would turn to face the sun for nourishment. I did not originate the idea that it is a sunflower.
The flower on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was, many years ago, widely accepted as being a sunflower. In fact, back in the early days of VMS research (pre-radio carbon days), scholars who had dated the VMS to the 15th century or earlier were suddenly forced to change their mind.
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Have you found a plant native to Europe that resembles the sunflower? If so, please point me to a picture of it.
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![[Image: 83126152-flower-elecampane-inula-heleniu...lower-.jpg]](https://previews.123rf.com/images/danlersk/danlersk1707/danlersk170700195/83126152-flower-elecampane-inula-helenium-yellow-flower-.jpg)
![[Image: Leucanthemum%2Bx%2Bsuperbum%2B%2527Real%...29.jpg.JPG]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fz3bFbh56C8/VnQTdZMHndI/AAAAAAAA3dM/1XGuikhFW9s/s1600/Leucanthemum%2Bx%2Bsuperbum%2B%2527Real%2BNeat%2BImproved%2527%2BBS%2B%25282014%2529.jpg.JPG)
Inula belenium, Leucanthemum sp.
![[Image: KennyWilliamson-5c4ce57746e0fb0001c0d9e7.jpg]](https://www.thespruce.com/thmb/o1DCY5Fqk5_PARyOWfr-vR0TKf4=/1210x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/KennyWilliamson-5c4ce57746e0fb0001c0d9e7.jpg)
![[Image: macro-shot-of-young-flower-heads-gerbera...d503230186]](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/macro-shot-of-young-flower-heads-gerbera-daisies-picture-id503230186)
Gerbera (both) (Africa)
I am sure there are other examples.
The way the very top is drawn on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. makes me think it could represent another shape entirely, though, things arent always exactly as drawn, the top could represent a bowl of porridge or somesuch.
I dont actually see sunflower seeds represented at all, they are not circles in any direction, and they are generally darker. Millet is circular, though.
The flower on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. has a large, round, flat head which looks like it would turn to face the sun for nourishment. I did not originate the idea that it is a sunflower.
The flower on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. was, many years ago, widely accepted as being a sunflower. In fact, back in the early days of VMS research (pre-radio carbon days), scholars who had dated the VMS to the 15th century or earlier were suddenly forced to change their mind.
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Have you found a plant native to Europe that resembles the sunflower? If so, please point me to a picture of it.
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![[Image: 83126152-flower-elecampane-inula-heleniu...lower-.jpg]](https://previews.123rf.com/images/danlersk/danlersk1707/danlersk170700195/83126152-flower-elecampane-inula-helenium-yellow-flower-.jpg)
![[Image: Leucanthemum%2Bx%2Bsuperbum%2B%2527Real%...29.jpg.JPG]](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fz3bFbh56C8/VnQTdZMHndI/AAAAAAAA3dM/1XGuikhFW9s/s1600/Leucanthemum%2Bx%2Bsuperbum%2B%2527Real%2BNeat%2BImproved%2527%2BBS%2B%25282014%2529.jpg.JPG)
Inula belenium, Leucanthemum sp.
![[Image: KennyWilliamson-5c4ce57746e0fb0001c0d9e7.jpg]](https://www.thespruce.com/thmb/o1DCY5Fqk5_PARyOWfr-vR0TKf4=/1210x0/filters:no_upscale():max_bytes(150000):strip_icc():format(webp)/KennyWilliamson-5c4ce57746e0fb0001c0d9e7.jpg)
Gerbera (both) (Africa)
I am sure there are other examples.
The way the very top is drawn on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. makes me think it could represent another shape entirely, though, things arent always exactly as drawn, the top could represent a bowl of porridge or somesuch.
I dont actually see sunflower seeds represented at all, they are not circles in any direction, and they are generally darker. Millet is circular, though.


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