(06-03-2019, 05:30 AM)Morten St. George wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(06-03-2019, 01:47 AM)Linda wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.But what i am saying is the original manuscript, the one made in 1250 to 1274, only went to 1223 in time. Therefore did not include anything about Montsegur massacre for anyone to copy.
Linda, since you have expressed no desire to point out King Philip's crown or royal attire in that illustration, I looked into the matter myself and found:
"Quand, en ce début d’année 1243, les quelques cinq mille hommes de l’armée du Sénéchal de Carcassonne Hugues des Arcis, accompagnés de l’archevêque de Narbonne, Pierre Amiel,..."
That has to be the answer. The guy on the left is royal officer Hugues who led the attack on Montségur, and next to him is archbishop Amiel (note the bishop's staff in his right hand). Don't be put off by his sword: bishop's engaged in combat during medieval times.
Years ago, I was naive like you, but I have since learned to be skeptical of the truthfulness of anything and everything that in any way relates to the demonic writings of Montségur.
Read the part of mine you quoted again, that is still my answer, you didnt say anything against it, just told a new story about the illustration that cannot have been drawn by anyone who knew what anything looked like.
I was not the one who said it was a king, and i gave you every smidge of reference i had to show where that came from. Meanwhile you dont post a link, but it is off a Montsegur site, no surprise. That is not the image that occurs, it is of Mountsegur ii, the one we are not supposed to know what it looks like. It doesnt matter regardless. Your image is of noone alive at the time it was created, it is a fantasy. Putting names on them doesnt make it any more real, even if you got them completely right, they are drawn from the mind's eye, not reality.
Near as i can tell the manuscript just says barons and priests. I dont see an indication of specifics anywhere yet.
But the thing is, you post that like it is the first time you have seen it, and i think it is, or you would have said it long ago, to support your claim. just like you seemed to be oblivious to previous burnings of Cathars in a previous post. You are supposed to be the expert on this. But even though you just found this today, it has to be the answer, not a consideration or possibility?
Why are you not skeptical of your own jumps to conclusion?


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