06-03-2019, 06:18 AM
The text around Morten's picture describes the nobility (and history of France).
The rubricated text under the picture introduces King Philip and then we get the lead-up history in black text, starting with Thebes. In other words, the text following the image describes a long time period.
I think this may be relevant, from Wikipedia:
"The Crusaders captured the small village of Servian and then headed for Béziers, arriving on July 21, 1209. Under the command of the papal legate, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.,You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. they started to besiege the city, calling on the Catholics within to come out, and demanding that the Cathars surrender.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Neither group did as commanded. The city fell the following day when an abortive sortie was pursued back through the open gates.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The entire population was You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and the city burned to the ground. It was reported that Amalric, when asked how to distinguish Cathars from Catholics, responded, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Historian You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. doubts that Amalric actually said this, but maintains that the statement captures the "spirit" of the Crusaders, who killed nearly every man, woman, and child in the town.
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The Crusaders traversed the 45 miles between Béziers and Carcassonne in six days,You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. arriving in the city on August 1, 1209. The siege did not last long.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. By August 7 they had cut the city's water supply. Raymond Roger sought negotiations but was taken prisoner while under truce, and Carcassonne surrendered on August 15. The people were not killed but were forced to leave the town."
At Lastours... "Simon wished to treat the occupants leniently, but was pressured by Arnaud Amalric to punish the Cathars. The Crusaders allowed the soldiers defending the town as well as the Catholics inside of it to go free, along with the non-perfect Cathars. The Cathar "perfects" were given the opportunity to return to Catholicism.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Simon and many of his soldiers made strong efforts to convert the Cathar perfects, but were highly unsuccessful.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Ultimately, only three women recanted.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The 140 who refused were burned at the stake. Some entered the flames voluntarily, not awaiting their executioners"
So they are saying Béziers was razed and burned and all the people killed, but in Carcassonne, the people were let go, and at Lastours the Cathars who refused to convert (which was most of them) were burned at the stake.
So the illustration could be referring to Béziers or to Lastours, but is probably Lastours since a stake is explicitly drawn.
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As for this comment you made about Linda:
"Years ago, I was naive like you, but I have since learned to be skeptical of the truthfulness of anything and everything that in any way relates to the demonic writings of Montségur. "
I'm not even going to bother complaining to the moderators because I'm sure Linda is mature enough to laugh it off. It really is ridiculous, considering who it's coming from.
The rubricated text under the picture introduces King Philip and then we get the lead-up history in black text, starting with Thebes. In other words, the text following the image describes a long time period.
I think this may be relevant, from Wikipedia:
"The Crusaders captured the small village of Servian and then headed for Béziers, arriving on July 21, 1209. Under the command of the papal legate, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.,You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. they started to besiege the city, calling on the Catholics within to come out, and demanding that the Cathars surrender.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Neither group did as commanded. The city fell the following day when an abortive sortie was pursued back through the open gates.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The entire population was You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. and the city burned to the ground. It was reported that Amalric, when asked how to distinguish Cathars from Catholics, responded, You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Historian You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. doubts that Amalric actually said this, but maintains that the statement captures the "spirit" of the Crusaders, who killed nearly every man, woman, and child in the town.
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The Crusaders traversed the 45 miles between Béziers and Carcassonne in six days,You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. arriving in the city on August 1, 1209. The siege did not last long.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. By August 7 they had cut the city's water supply. Raymond Roger sought negotiations but was taken prisoner while under truce, and Carcassonne surrendered on August 15. The people were not killed but were forced to leave the town."
At Lastours... "Simon wished to treat the occupants leniently, but was pressured by Arnaud Amalric to punish the Cathars. The Crusaders allowed the soldiers defending the town as well as the Catholics inside of it to go free, along with the non-perfect Cathars. The Cathar "perfects" were given the opportunity to return to Catholicism.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Simon and many of his soldiers made strong efforts to convert the Cathar perfects, but were highly unsuccessful.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. Ultimately, only three women recanted.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view. The 140 who refused were burned at the stake. Some entered the flames voluntarily, not awaiting their executioners"
So they are saying Béziers was razed and burned and all the people killed, but in Carcassonne, the people were let go, and at Lastours the Cathars who refused to convert (which was most of them) were burned at the stake.
So the illustration could be referring to Béziers or to Lastours, but is probably Lastours since a stake is explicitly drawn.
.
As for this comment you made about Linda:
"Years ago, I was naive like you, but I have since learned to be skeptical of the truthfulness of anything and everything that in any way relates to the demonic writings of Montségur. "
I'm not even going to bother complaining to the moderators because I'm sure Linda is mature enough to laugh it off. It really is ridiculous, considering who it's coming from.