Morten St George Theory

[Linda]

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PHILIP II AUGUSTUS, 1165-1223, watches heretics burn during the Crusade against the Albigensians in 1209, manuscript illumination from the Grandes Chroniques de St Denis, c. 1400

It was pretty specific about not being your bonfire. So it would make no difference to discuss whether or not this spire or that matches the vms unless you want to move your massacre down to this one, but even then, they are likely imagined, since it is 200 years later.

I've given you a "like" because I really appreciate seeing the full page.

Thanks.

Wikipedia says: "When Pope Innocent III called for a crusade against the "Albigensians," or Cathars, in Languedoc in 1208, Philip did nothing to support it, though he did not stop his nobles from joining in."

Please tell us where Philip personally oversaw the burning of Cathars so that we can identify the mountaintop fortress seen in the background. Thanks.

I only quoted the info that came with the drawing, i dont know if this occurred or is imagined but real or not the scene is set before 1223 for him to be depicted there.

I thought kings were normally depicted wearing a crown whether they were actually wearing one at the moment or not. Why isn't Philip II depicted with a crown?

What can i say, i was not there, when it happened nor when it was written.

Lastly, please tell us which part of the manuscript text you translate as saying "PHILIP II AUGUSTUS, 1165-1223, watches heretics burn during the Crusade against the Albigensians in 1209." I can read French and am having trouble seeing that description, or even an approximation of that description for that matter.

It came from here

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Also note that publication date is not the same as creation date (a common confusion in this forum) as the artist here was very likely copying a much older drawing.

That may well be, but in many cases updated drawings update the clothing and architecture as well. As i said, i noticed the 15th century hats, surely they werent wearing them in the early 1200s. You would need to find that illustration. But the point is moot since it is not likely Montsegur.