01-03-2019, 09:29 PM
(28-02-2019, 11:21 AM)Morten St. George wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(28-02-2019, 10:55 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.It does NOT predate the 14th century human Sagittarius figures. Are you assuming human Sagittarius was only in the 15th century? Or only in the late 15th century?
That's my whole point. If there were human Sagittarii in the 14th century, why couldn't the original creation date of the VMS be the 14th century, with the current Beinecke manuscript being only a 15th-century copy? Likewise for the 13th century if another human Sagittarius pops up there? It is you and Koen, not I, who keeps insisting on the 15th century for VMS themes.
I have full confidence in your research capabilities. However, recall that I am claiming that the VMS was compiled by Cathars who are believed to have been prolific writers and to have had possession of many books, yet all that remains of all that is a few scraps of paper. Even the best research leads to faulty conclusions if a lot of vital information is missing.
Just a post or two ago, you said it was a 15th century manuscript, now you are back to positing it to be an earlier creation.
What does your claim have to do with JKP's research capabilities? You seem to be saying that the exemplars for what you state are gone, therefore no one can disprove your claim? That doesn't follow, given there do exist exemplars that don't help your theory.

