Morten St George Theory

[-JKP-]

Morten, i apologize for misspelling your name earlier

I didn't even notice.

I am wondering why you insist the manuscript should be created in the 13th century

There are many indications that the VMS was composed by Cathar heretics who became extinct in Europe during the 13th century.

Composition by Cathars would explain the use of encryption and would also explain, in view of Inquisition efforts to erase all memory of them, why we are finding it so hard to identify the VMS authors.

I do not place a lot of credence in the zodiac arguments of JP and Koen. Old World literature has been saturated with zodiac depictions since ancient times and, without a complete account of all astrological works across time (which we do not have), it is impossible to say with confidence that a certain design first arose on such and such a date.

Case in point: JP shows us 15th century depictions of a human Sagittarius (rather than the classical Centaur) and claims this is evidence that the VMS Sagittarius (also human) dates to the 15th century. Meanwhile, he conveniently downgrades his own depiction of a human Sagittarius dating from the 6th century. In no way does the zodiac provide a smoking gun for the 15th century.

I DO NOT appreciate my years of research being mis-characterized like this.

I did NOT pick out ONE THING and base ANY kind of conclusion on it. I do NOT do research that way.

I collected more than FIVE HUNDRED zodiac series before I even BEGAN to make generalizations about them, and I cross-referenced that information with the hundreds of examples of clothing that I collected over the same span of years and THOUSANDS of examples of medieval script.

TOGETHER this evidence points to the 15th century, not the 13th century.


YOU are a cherry-picker. You pick ONE example from the 6th century that is OUT OF CHARACTER with the other examples from the 6th century and then you use that as an example to negate all the rest? That is preposterous.