(27-02-2019, 09:28 AM)Morten St. George wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.(27-02-2019, 09:13 AM)-JKP- wrote: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login to view.Morten YOUR EXAMPLE does not look like the VMS hat. Look at the enlargement. It's not a beret. The VMS hat is a poofy beret.
Your example MIGHT be the same idea as the statue of Uta von Ballenstedt in Naumburg Cathedral. You can't say a cap with a chinstrap and a ring of metal around the perimeter is the same as the VMS hat.
I'm not even convinced it has a little tab in the center. I think that might be an illusion. It might be the edge of the faces of the two boys in the background and is not necessarily part of the hat.
Whatever it is, JP, the 13th century Spanish hat provides a better match for the VMS hat (there are more examples of this type of hat in the VMS) than anything you have so far shown us for the 15th century.
It looks like the bulge in the middle of the hat might be the sign of a master instructor or something like that.
Morten it's a CROWN. There's no BULGE. There's no fabric. It's a typical crown with a fleur-de-lis embellishment so common on crowns.
It does not look like the VMS beret in any way and it's MADE OF METAL, not cloth It's a small simplified drawing of the kind of crown on the right, the kind with a fleur-de-lis sticking up higher than the other parts:

